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Old 08-19-04, 06:44 PM   #1
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mmmm, PX10 yummy

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...694593462&rd=1

if only i was a foot taller...
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I like your taste!
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I've got three of them, and yes, they are nice. That one looks to be 67 or 68, very cool years for the PXs. I believe we discussed this same bike over on the classics board a while back.
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I've got three of them, and yes, they are nice. That one looks to be 67 or 68, very cool years for the PXs. I believe we discussed this same bike over on the classics board a while back.
Wow, you are a lucky fella. I think one of these would make a nice mate to my '72 Paramount. This one is in particularly good shape, it looks to me. Too bad it is 10 cms to big for me.
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Nah, just persistent... this bike happens to be my size, but it's too pricey for me for just a frame. Still, it's tempting... might be nice to fixie it, but I'd be afraid to ride it much; it's in way better shape than the 73 PX10E I have done up as a fixie (though not as nice the 72 or 67). This one deserves some Phil Wood and the like, IMHO.
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i like the px10s, too

who knew the french could produce something of worth?
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Nah, just persistent... this bike happens to be my size, but it's too pricey for me for just a frame. Still, it's tempting... might be nice to fixie it, but I'd be afraid to ride it much; it's in way better shape than the 73 PX10E I have done up as a fixie (though not as nice the 72 or 67). This one deserves some Phil Wood and the like, IMHO.
Nothing is as beautiful as a classic frame set up with the very best parts...
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Carbon could never look that good. No matter how many stickers and other hoopla you put on it.
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Lugged steel rules.

Why can't they make affordable bikes that are this beautiful anymore?
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Another sweet bike on ebay right now:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW
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Another sweet bike on ebay right now:

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Wow, and that one is my size. Not in my budget though. The top tube is a little short, dontcha think?
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Wow, and that one is my size. Not in my budget though. The top tube is a little short, dontcha think?
Yeah, I didn't notice that. The guy who had it built must be really weird looking: like 5'7 but with super long legs and a short torso. Or maybe really stubby arms, like a T Rex.
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Wow, and that one is my size. Not in my budget though. The top tube is a little short, dontcha think?
Depends. I have long legs and a short torso so I need a short top tube.
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tube top? what?
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what? tobe tup?
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Depends. I have long legs and a short torso so I need a short top tube.
I generally like to ride in shorts and a tube top. or tops and short tube. i forget which.
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"Why can't they make affordable bikes that are this beautiful anymore?"

Mostly the degree of hand crafting. The PXs, for example, were built in a seperate factory by Peugeot's best craftsmen. Silver hand brazed, not welded. Very well built bikes. Now it's much cheaper to design the bike and have it built by automation in China or Taiwan. You gain some price points but lose something ineffable in the translation.

If you want a hand built frame, hunt around for high-end 60's and 70's bikes. Treks from before the mid-eighties are very, very fine, as another example. Some of the smaller less known marquees, like Mondia and Stella, also produced some notable bikes. Saw a Singer a while back, truly the most beautiful bike I've ever seen, owned by a nice old lady outside of town. If it had been my size, I would have had to find three grand. No choice.

"who knew the french could produce something of worth? "

Their tools are truly things to behold, as well. Occasional idiotic French engineering, but the Var tools are some of the best in the world.
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"Why can't they make affordable bikes that are this beautiful anymore?"

Mostly the degree of hand crafting. The PXs, for example, were built in a seperate factory by Peugeot's best craftsmen. Silver hand brazed, not welded. Very well built bikes. Now it's much cheaper to design the bike and have it built by automation in China or Taiwan. You gain some price points but lose something ineffable in the translation.
I'd add to that, most people don't intend on keeping a bike for 10 or 20 years, something that's possible with a fine handcrafted frame. For most, bikes are seen as disposable and kept for a couple of years before the next best thing comes along made of the latest and greatest unobtanium material. I hightly suggested getting a subscription to the Rivendell Reader if you want to check out cool lugged stuff.
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What a jackass I told that guy I would buy the frame and PICK IT UP from his door if he wanted then he emailed saying it was no longer available.
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@#$%, 356$???? For a frame with no bottom bracket, no stem, no seatpost, all of which can be hard and or costly to find for this sort of bike? Ebay certainly has it's moments of complete and utter insanity, and this may be one of them. I'm tempted to strip down my 67 and sell it piece by piece, it's in this kind of condition, as are the parts. I'd make a fortune.

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@#$%, 356$???? For a frame with no bottom bracket, no stem, no seatpost, all of which can be hard and or costly to find for this sort of bike? Ebay certainly has it's moments of complete and utter insanity, and this may be one of them. I'm tempted to strip down my 67 and sell it piece by piece, it's in this kind of condition, as are the parts. I'd make a fortune.

Nah.
On items like this Ebay usually works in favor of the seller, not the buyer, and can be totally irrational. You may be able to find a frame like this if you look hard, are willing to wait and know where to go. But if you don't have the time/patience to do so, then why not pay top $$ for something if it is really what you want? After all, this frame is surely *worth* $356. It is a beautiful object that will bring its new owner many many years of riding pleasure. For that very reason I'd hold on to mine if I were you.
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