Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-20-04, 05:32 PM   #1
mexicutioner
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 31
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
old italian frames: brands to look for?

hi all,
i was wondering, what are some decent italian frame-makers? i see a lot of italian-sounding frames on ebay and craigslist (olmo, debernardi, serrota, colnago, etc) but since i'm not very familiar with italian bikes, i never know which ones are good and which ones aren't. are there any (preferably not super expensive brands) that i should be on the lookout for? thanks!
mexicutioner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-04, 06:04 PM   #2
terrapin04
Senior Member
 
terrapin04's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Minneapolis
Bikes: 1998 Huffy 18 speed
Posts: 96
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I have a guerciotti and love it
terrapin04 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-04, 06:38 PM   #3
NYCpistarider
NYCPistaRider
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Bikes:
Posts: 167
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by terrapin04
I have a guerciotti and love it
What an awesome bike a Guerciotti is. Do you have one with pantographed parts? I dream of someday owning one with a full campy pantograph set... Someday!
NYCpistarider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-04, 06:40 PM   #4
NYCpistarider
NYCPistaRider
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Bikes:
Posts: 167
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by mexicutioner
hi all,
i was wondering, what are some decent italian frame-makers? i see a lot of italian-sounding frames on ebay and craigslist (olmo, debernardi, serrota, colnago, etc) but since i'm not very familiar with italian bikes, i never know which ones are good and which ones aren't. are there any (preferably not super expensive brands) that i should be on the lookout for? thanks!
Sheldon Brown has a handy guide to pricing for vintage lightweights if you are looking for an older bike. The prices are outdated but the info on the history and quality of frames is very useful.

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/vrbn-a-f.html#alan
NYCpistarider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-04, 07:41 PM   #5
terrapin04
Senior Member
 
terrapin04's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Minneapolis
Bikes: 1998 Huffy 18 speed
Posts: 96
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I actually found my guerciotti track frame in a bike junkyard of sorts...i stripped and rebuilt it, with the only original part being the campy bb....its an incredibly fun fixie to ride...lightweight and fast
terrapin04 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-04, 08:01 PM   #6
auk
Coasting makes you grumpy
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Indiana
Bikes: Specialized Stumpjumper M2Comp; Habanero Ti-Team; Slingshot Road; 1962 converted Raliegh fixer aka: The Beast
Posts: 1,376
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
The Serotta is US built.

Others to look for:
Basso
Viner
Rossin
Casati
Battaglin
Ciocc
tons more but they escape me right now.....guys....a hand.....

Dave
auk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-04, 08:14 PM   #7
SteveE
Veni, Vidi, Vomiti
 
SteveE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Republic of Anaerobia
Bikes: Serotta Legend Ti, Romani Columbus SL, Soma Doublecross
Posts: 3,582
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Masi
Mondonico
Cinelli
Gios
DeRosa
SteveE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-04, 08:52 PM   #8
OneTinSloth
(Grouchy)
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Bikes:
Posts: 3,643
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCpistarider
What an awesome bike a Guerciotti is. Do you have one with pantographed parts? I dream of someday owning one with a full campy pantograph set... Someday!
my friend got a pinarello roadie with all pantographed campy...and it was stolen the same night he bought it, along with his harry havnoonian track/work bike...i hwas having a party that night, and he was invited too. if he would've come to my party, he'd probably still have the pinarello.

he got the HH back, never saw the pinarello again...but then he got a merlin Ti frame for like, $800 and set it up with full '03 record and ksyriums...then he got another merlin for $500 and was gonna set it up with older dura ace 8 speed as a "winter work bike." last i heard he was gonna sell both of them because he hadn't built up the second, and he never rode the first....

...oh well.
OneTinSloth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-04, 09:01 PM   #9
biff
biff-o-matic
 
biff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Austin, TX
Bikes: Moyer Cycles #1 - A fixie of course.
Posts: 305
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I had a Tommasini road bike that I converted to fixie. Unfortunately, the headtube cracked right above the bottom lug - right in the heat affected zone.

Right now I have a very flashy Faggin (pronounced fajeen with a smoothed j) converted to fix. I dig it b/c it's very loud visually - pantographed seatpost, stem, crankarms, and chainring. But, I can see that the frame was put to together like crap. Beware of crappy italian quality from the 80's.
biff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-04, 09:06 PM   #10
OneTinSloth
(Grouchy)
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Bikes:
Posts: 3,643
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
...yeah. some bianchis from the 70s and 80s are complete and utter ****. dropouts like paper, lugs that look like pipe fittings...just all over nasty.
OneTinSloth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-04, 10:10 PM   #11
skitbraviking
the way we get by
 
skitbraviking's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Wherever the f**k I feel it
Bikes: Cinelli Supercorsa / Surly Karate Monkey
Posts: 2,719
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Love my DeBernardi. I might only trade it for a Cinelli but that's because they seem cooler and I can be a sucker for that.
skitbraviking is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-04, 04:34 AM   #12
Erik
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Arnhem, The Netherlands
Bikes:
Posts: 88
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I have a Chesini that I'm building up right now. Italian steel with beautiful lugs (hearts cut out) and some cool decals.
Erik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-04, 08:09 PM   #13
smurfy
Senior Member
 
smurfy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Bikes:
Posts: 1,157
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Seriously, aren't ALL Itialian frames decent? Are there any crappy ones?
smurfy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-04, 08:46 PM   #14
Moonshot
Now with racer-boy font!
 
Moonshot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: East Alabama
Bikes: 2004 Litespeed Tuscany, Trek 5500, Breezer Storm, Bianchi road bike (fixed)
Posts: 1,272
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
More Italian bikes (but not crappy):

Pegoretti
Pinarello
Benotto
Tomasso
Colnago
__________________

www.eastalabamacycling.org
Moonshot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-04, 05:39 PM   #15
misterherman
Senior Member
 
misterherman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Houston
Bikes:
Posts: 126
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Pogliaghi! When they made by Sante Pogliaghi.
misterherman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-04, 06:01 PM   #16
jukt
Senior Member
 
jukt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: flatland
Bikes: trek - lemond
Posts: 317
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Eddy Merckx makes bikes.
jukt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-04, 10:01 PM   #17
jitensha!
ready for the freakout
 
jitensha!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: the 757
Bikes: Spicer track
Posts: 991
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jukt
Eddy Merckx makes bikes.
yeah, but he's Belgian.
jitensha! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-05, 08:28 PM   #18
efromme
Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 4
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I Just bought a chesini track bike. I'd like to know more about it. Any suggestions?
efromme is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-05, 08:43 PM   #19
MQracing
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Philadelphia, PA.
Bikes: two melton track bikes (one is a tandem), Fuji Pro road bike, cinelli unica, raleigh pro (modern raleigh)
Posts: 51
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
my favorite Italian track frames would be Gios Torino, Cinelli, Leganno, Frejus, and Bottechia.

I've been thinking a lot about just spending the mullah and getting a new Cinelli steel track frame while the last of the real mccoy's are still available.

Mike
MQracing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-05, 08:48 PM   #20
OrangeJTM46
Rocket Hips
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: West Philly
Bikes:
Posts: 116
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Someone gave me an old Columbus Zullo frame, but it was crashed. Nice frame though.
OrangeJTM46 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-05, 10:29 PM   #21
Cynikal
Team Beer
 
Cynikal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Sacramento CA
Bikes: Too Many
Posts: 5,934
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
I have a Marinoni road frame. Kinda Italian kinda Canadian. Great lug work and all columbus slx. Currently my road bike frame but in a few years when I have one made she will be a fixie.
Cynikal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-05, 11:04 PM   #22
icithecat
old codger
 
icithecat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Victoria B.C.
Bikes:
Posts: 1,124
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
I'm still working on my moser. That is Italian.
icithecat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-05, 11:19 PM   #23
48x16
Geriatric Member
 
48x16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Bikes: Surly CrossCheck
Posts: 485
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
medici
48x16 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-05, 11:36 PM   #24
Romoni_63
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: the loop
Bikes: Spooky Metal Head ,Kona Stinky Primo,SE Flovel flyer,Bianchi Cross,Waterford Track,Fuji Track
Posts: 180
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Romani
Romoni_63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-05, 11:56 PM   #25
vobopl
re:member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Cracow, Poland
Bikes: unknown make TT bike, fixed; Romet Sport, gone; titanium Pinarello gone;Colnago with Campy C-Record/Super Record,on it's way; Funny Gianni Motta; Buehler track, Polrad track chrome; titanium MTB on 28'', fixed; Tri Wheeler, fixed
Posts: 874
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Gianni Motta.
vobopl is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:02 AM.