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    Vintage Single speed, I mean really vintage

    Vintage Single speed, I mean really vintage:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/pwpl/40...7622644909455/
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    SADDLE SLAMMED FORWARD TOTALLY WRONG MAN

    That saddle looks high tech for the period though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WoundedKnee View Post
    SADDLE SLAMMED FORWARD TOTALLY WRONG MAN

    That saddle looks high tech for the period though.
    You don't know what you're talking about, man. Back in the day, saddles were attached in the rear so they'd be close enough to the cranks due to the extremely slack frame angles. You'll see a lot of old bikes like that.

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    I was being extremely sarcastic. Hence all caps/no punctuation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WoundedKnee View Post
    I was being extremely sarcastic. Hence all caps/no punctuation.
    OK, I guess I needed the emoticon to figure it out.

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    great, an old bike photo!







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    holy carp i need a wheelie bar on my 68 schwinn racer

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    Look those clothes... their hipsters I daresay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by illdthedj View Post
    holy carp i need a wheelie bar on my 68 schwinn racer
    With a 35 lb 15 oz wheelie bar, I think it'd be a permanent wheelie on any of my bikes. Although that would be pretty cool too.



    (Yeah, I know that's probably the shipping weight)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rideorglide View Post
    Vintage Single speed, I mean really vintage:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/pwpl/40...7622644909455/
    Isn't that a fixed gear, actually? I'm no cycling historian, but I thought the oldest bikes were all fixed gear. And the bike in the photo doesn't seem to have any brakes whatsoever. Sooooo.... thread title failure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops View Post
    Isn't that a fixed gear, actually? I'm no cycling historian, but I thought the oldest bikes were all fixed gear. And the bike in the photo doesn't seem to have any brakes whatsoever. Sooooo.... thread title failure?
    Could be a spoon brake since you can't see the entire front wheel...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops View Post
    Isn't that a fixed gear, actually? I'm no cycling historian, but I thought the oldest bikes were all fixed gear. And the bike in the photo doesn't seem to have any brakes whatsoever. Sooooo.... thread title failure?
    You are correct. The first bikes were the ordinaries (aka high-wheeler, Penny-farthing, boneshaker), which were direct drive from the front wheel. These were replaced by the safety bicycle we know today with chain drive from cranks mounted on the bottom bracket to a cog mounted on the rear wheel. Both these types of bikes were raced on tracks as well as ridden on roads as fixed gears san brakes. Freewheels and brakes were introduced later on.

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    spoon brakes started to go out quick with the invention of pneumatic tires. that said, they were used through the 1930's in some places, despite the fact that the freewheel was invented in the 1880's. either way, if it has a spoon brake or not, it's almost certainly a fixed gear. fixed gears really didn't go out of style until the coaster brake was invented, which certainly wasn't on this bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elemental View Post
    With a 35 lb 15 oz wheelie bar, I think it'd be a permanent wheelie on any of my bikes. Although that would be pretty cool too.



    (Yeah, I know that's probably the shipping weight)
    No, that's for six of them. They're actually 5lb, 12oz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops View Post
    Isn't that a fixed gear, actually? I'm no cycling historian, but I thought the oldest bikes were all fixed gear. And the bike in the photo doesn't seem to have any brakes whatsoever. Sooooo.... thread title failure?
    Fixed gear=1 gear= Single speed
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    Monocoque unicycles with internal gear hubs, ridden by extortionists with an excellent sense of balance.

    You'll see. Unless you drilled out your eyes because they were too heavy.

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    Looks a lot like the wright brothers bicycles, same chainring, same seat and seat post, same geometry. Can't tell for sure, but might be the same bars, though this kid has his flipped upright instead of dropped.
    http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...26tbs%3Disch:1

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    Quote Originally Posted by cnnrmccloskey View Post
    Fixed gear=1 gear= Single speed
    While fixed gears and single speeds do both have one gear (i.e., you can't shift), there is a critical difference between the two. On fixies, you can not coast -- i.e., if the rear wheel is turning, the pedals are turning, simple as that. Coasting is possible on a single-speed.

    So fixed gears != single_speed
    "There is more to life than increasing its speed" -- Mahatma Gandhi

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinF View Post
    While fixed gears and single speeds do both have one gear (i.e., you can't shift), there is a critical difference between the two. On fixies, you can not coast -- i.e., if the rear wheel is turning, the pedals are turning, simple as that. Coasting is possible on a single-speed.

    So fixed gears != single_speed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian View Post
    No, that's for six of them. They're actually 5lb, 12oz.
    Oh, muuuuch better.

    And can't we all just agree that these are "fixed wheel" bikes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinF View Post
    While fixed gears and single speeds do both have one gear (i.e., you can't shift), there is a critical difference between the two. On fixies, you can not coast -- i.e., if the rear wheel is turning, the pedals are turning, simple as that. Coasting is possible on a single-speed.

    So fixed gears != single_speed
    Just... no.

    Single speed means you have a single gear ratio you can use and no other. It means you don't have any others gears you can move into out out of...
    It does not actually state whether the cog incorporates a freewheel or a lock ring.

    I even have friends in the industry who rile up when people use the term fixed gear to mean no freewheel, because to them a fixed gear means you are fixed into a single gear and cannot shift to another. So, even a single speed with a freewheel can also be called a fixed gear to them. They prefer the term fixed wheel.

    I don't like their pickiness, but please don't be so ignorant as to think that single speed means the cog incorporates a freewheel. A cog with a lock ring or fixed in any way to prevent coasting is still a single speed, so long as there is only a single gear ratio on the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antiaverage View Post
    Just... no.

    Single speed means you have a single gear ratio you can use and no other. It means you don't have any others gears you can move into out out of...
    It does not actually state whether the cog incorporates a freewheel or a lock ring.

    I even have friends in the industry who rile up when people use the term fixed gear to mean no freewheel, because to them a fixed gear means you are fixed into a single gear and cannot shift to another. So, even a single speed with a freewheel can also be called a fixed gear to them. They prefer the term fixed wheel.

    I don't like their pickiness, but please don't be so ignorant as to think that single speed means the cog incorporates a freewheel. A cog with a lock ring or fixed in any way to prevent coasting is still a single speed, so long as there is only a single gear ratio on the bike.
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    This is much ado about nothing. Many terms are technically incorrect but we all know what they mean. It's called "common usage". So when I refer to a clincher bicycle tire, we all understand that it's an open shaped tire that mates with an open shaped rim and usually requires a separate tube. Nonetheless, this is technically wrong, since true "clincher" tires have not been used on bicycles for many decades, and the more proper term would be "wired-on". By the same token, we all understand that fixed gear means a cog that is somehow fixed to the hub such that coasting is not possible, and a single speed is a subset of a multi-speed that does permit coasting. Unfortunately, when you're dealing with the Walmart crowd, about the only thing they can understand is that a bicycle has two wheels, maybe....

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    Quote Originally Posted by antiaverage View Post
    Just... no.

    Single speed means you have a single gear ratio you can use and no other. It means you don't have any others gears you can move into out out of...
    It does not actually state whether the cog incorporates a freewheel or a lock ring.

    I even have friends in the industry who rile up when people use the term fixed gear to mean no freewheel, because to them a fixed gear means you are fixed into a single gear and cannot shift to another. So, even a single speed with a freewheel can also be called a fixed gear to them. They prefer the term fixed wheel.

    I don't like their pickiness, but please don't be so ignorant as to think that single speed means the cog incorporates a freewheel. A cog with a lock ring or fixed in any way to prevent coasting is still a single speed, so long as there is only a single gear ratio on the bike.
    "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky."

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    Fail thread.

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