How to make a suicide hub safe?
05-03-10, 07:52 PM
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How to make a suicide hub safe?
Hey i am planning on making a suicide hub, because i do not have enough money to buy a real track hub. So is there a way to make a safe suicide hub. I have heard of welding/brazing but i want something simpler.
05-03-10, 08:20 PM
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swap the hub with a track hub
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05-03-10, 08:21 PM
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05-03-10, 08:26 PM
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Best thing is to rotafixa the cog on the hub and add a bottom bracket lockring - but most importantly, use a rear brake for braking instead of backpedaling. This is, in a nutshell, what Sheldon Brown recommends.
05-03-10, 08:39 PM
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If you use brakes, you're fine. If you don't use brakes, rotafix the rear cog on and possibly use some JB Weld. If you're planning on going down a lot of hills, use brakes.
05-03-10, 08:49 PM
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Loctite red or JB Coldweld then rotofix and a back brake
05-03-10, 09:17 PM
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If you really want to ride fixed THAT badly, then maybe just put your energies into getting a used track wheel and ride safely?
05-03-10, 09:19 PM
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The title is contradicting
05-03-10, 09:27 PM
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You gonna eat that?
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05-03-10, 10:15 PM
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You gonna eat that?
No. I haven't looked at it yet. I'm thinking of a teeny little set screw... the smallest I can get... and maybe drilling through the threads between the cog and hub (parallel to the axle), then just screwing the screw in without tapping, and just locktiting in place. I see the wheel as pretty much disposable; I got the whole bike for $10. If I decide I like FG then I'll get a proper wheel with a track hub. This is kind of a try-before-you-buy/learning experience project.
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05-03-10, 10:45 PM
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The point of the suicide hub is that you don't have to do it yourself. Instead of cutting yourself with a razor "across the street" or "down the street", you can just let your cog spin off while skidding down a hill. I swear getting hit by a semi is less painful than blood letting, and looks wicked cool.
Use a brake.
Use a brake.
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05-03-10, 10:49 PM
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Maybe put a bottom bracket lockring over the cog? It probably won't help much since they thread on in the same direction.
05-03-10, 10:50 PM
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the safest way to suicide a hub is not to.
05-03-10, 10:54 PM
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05-03-10, 11:41 PM
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Suicide up is only OK SS, nogo on FG.
Seriously, if you really want to trim it up, go SS until you can afford a new hub.
Seriously, if you really want to trim it up, go SS until you can afford a new hub.
05-04-10, 02:48 AM
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Aww... will the BS flood ever stop? Why don't you people actually think a bit with your heads instead of going with the herd and parroting each other?
"Suicide hub"
"Suicide hub"
Originally Posted by Sheldon Brown
A rather alarmist and silly name for a freewheel hub used as a fixed-gear hub.
Any standard-thread freewheel type hub will also accept a fixed-gear ("track ") sprocket . This is a common technique for converting an older bike to fixed gear on the cheap.
Despite the silly name, this is no more dangerous than using a freewheel, as long as you keep front and rear hand brakes installed.
Any standard-thread freewheel type hub will also accept a fixed-gear ("track ") sprocket . This is a common technique for converting an older bike to fixed gear on the cheap.
Despite the silly name, this is no more dangerous than using a freewheel, as long as you keep front and rear hand brakes installed.
05-04-10, 02:50 AM
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And if you ask "Who the heck is Sheldon Brown anyway?" - well, he was only the greatest advocate for fixed gear riding ever to walk the earth (and pedal thereon).
05-04-10, 06:52 AM
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A so-called "suicide hub" can be perfectly safe for street riding. The real danger comes from not using brakes regardless of whether "suicide hubs" OR track hubs are fitted.
05-04-10, 09:11 AM
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My buddy was running suicide style without a lockring for a while and somehow he didn't die, then i stomped on his cranks backwards to show him what would happen. After seeing the cog backing itself off, he wanted to fix it. A bottom bracket lockring and some red loctite got it working fine, no problems since then.
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05-04-10, 09:33 AM
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My buddy was running suicide style without a lockring for a while and somehow he didn't die, then i stomped on his cranks backwards to show him what would happen. After seeing the cog backing itself off, he wanted to fix it. A bottom bracket lockring and some red loctite got it working fine, no problems since then.
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05-04-10, 09:44 AM
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You gonna eat that?
In my case I plan on running both brakes.
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The OP has not commented on using brakes, I wish he would. Again, if you didn't hear it, it is only suicide if you run brakeless.
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