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    Lugged Frameset <500$

    Is there anywhere to buy a new, lugged frameset for under 500$? I've been looking on eBay for old track framesets and rarely do they ever pop up for under 700$. If there's any framebuilders I should know of that do this type of thing that would be great.

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    what does lugged mean?

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    I'm pretty sure Leader has a lugged frame out now
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    Quote Originally Posted by wmgreene85 View Post
    what does lugged mean?
    It's the method of joining the frame tubes. The tubes are inserted into sockets called lugs and the joints are effectively glued together by brazing. This is the old way of making steel frames and modern steel frames are typically TIG welded together. Lugged frames are preferred for cosmetic reasons, and are not in any way superior functionally to TIG welded frames.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ModernDivo View Post
    I'm pretty sure Leader has a lugged frame out now
    They sure do. It's 500 bucks and it's nice:

    http://www.leaderbikestore.com/pd-ld...rack-frame.cfm

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    leader, alien, viking, kazane, theres one i forgot but he makes custom bikes.

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    Traitor has one at $499, but it has cable stops for a rear brake. They also have a fillet brazed frame without any stops, though it costs more.

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    Lugs and powder coating do not go well together. Also, the geo is whacked on those Leaders. I would likely be on a 51-- and I normally ride a 57- 58.

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    The nickel BI frame-set is tops on my list for my next build.
    Besides the rear cable stops, and questionable quality headset ... someone talk me out of this frame.
    Seems like a great value to me, besides being unique and beautiful.
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    Same frame/fork as my Premium Brew (and the Fuji OBEY except it has added cable stops and is drilled for brakes). The headset is wonky but the sealed bearings in mine were smooth. I replaced it anyway because I hated looking at it and I have no other black components on my bike.

    I love mine and even if I hadn't gotten it from a friend for next to nothing, I'd most likely buy one at some point. Do it!

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    I've recently been in contact with Brother Cycles. Tho they are London based, they told me they will ship to the US. I think it looks like a nice frameset. They don't have much info on their site so I'm gonna post what they told me here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Cycles email
    Here are a few more details regarding the frames:
    - Frame and fork in black £280 plus delivery (roughly $420)
    - Constructed from double-butted 4130 chromoly steel
    - Four sizes 55, 57, 59 and 61cm measured centre to top of lug
    - Geometry is track-like 74deg head tube, 60mm bottom bracket drop
    I came very close to ordering from them except their sizes run too big for me

    edit: If ur interested just write to them. They seem like nice peeps
    Last edited by ichitz; 05-12-10 at 02:18 PM. Reason: i'm stoopid
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    The Wabi Special is available as a frameset in Reynolds 725 for $600 >>> http://www.wabicycles.com/special_lg_cham.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by ichitz View Post
    I've recently been in contact with Brother Cycles. Tho they are London based, they told me they will ship to the US. I think it looks like a nice frameset. They don't have much info on their site so I'm gonna post what they told me here.



    I came very close to ordering from them except their sizes run too big for me

    edit: If ur interested just write to them. They seem like nice peeps
    I really like the look of that, and it would probably still be under $500 shipped. Plus the odds of locking up next to another one in Wisconsin are pretty low.

    I am also impressed with the Leader. That company looks like it has come a long way.

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    Ummm. That Brother frame-set is the same as the nickle plated one at BI, just black. Non?

    Will I notice that the nickle bike is 4130 not 520 like my kilo? Or am I being ridiculous?

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    Quote Originally Posted by filtersweep View Post
    Lugs and powder coating do not go well together. Also, the geo is whacked on those Leaders. I would likely be on a 51-- and I normally ride a 57- 58.
    One of my roommates just had his 80s ten speed powder coated, and it looks fine. It's not like we're talking about Richard Sachs lugs. The thickness of the finish is less of an issue than I thought it would be, and the lugs look pretty clean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elemental View Post
    I really like the look of that, and it would probably still be under $500 shipped.
    shipping info email they sent me here:

    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Cycles email
    Option 1: Global Value Delivery - 5-10 days delivery time
    Cost: £68.49 + £10 compensation fee, Total: £78.49
    Please note: Global Value service does not include 'signed for' delivery and is not trackable outise of the UK; however does include compensation cover. Therefore if a parcel is undelivered Brother Cycles can present a proof of postage and log an enquiry with Parcel Force - whether or not Parcel Force provide compensation relies entirely upon the outcome of this investigation. Brother Cycles will not be liable for any losses which are not covered by Parcel Force Compensation fees.
    Option 2: Global Priority Delivery - 3 days delivery time
    Cost: £159.99 + £10 compensation fee, Total: £169.99
    Global Priority is full trackable with 'signed for' proof of delivery.
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    That traitor Luggernaut looks pretty nice. Anyone have any experience with Traitor bikes?



    edit.......... oh my god i just noticed that it has the most hideous fork crown I've ever seen....

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    Quote Originally Posted by twelsch42 View Post
    Ummm. That Brother frame-set is the same as the nickle plated one at BI, just black. Non?
    Most likely not. All those frames look very similar.

    Quote Originally Posted by twelsch42 View Post
    Will I notice that the nickle bike is 4130 not 520 like my kilo? Or am I being ridiculous?
    You won´t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elemental View Post
    Traitor has one at $499, but it has cable stops for a rear brake. They also have a fillet brazed frame without any stops, though it costs more.
    That Traitor is beautiful, and functional! But it will only be available "June-July 2010". Which probably means August-September.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ichitz View Post
    I've recently been in contact with Brother Cycles. Tho they are London based, they told me they will ship to the US. I think it looks like a nice frameset. They don't have much info on their site so I'm gonna post what they told me here.

    Quote Originally Posted by [B
    Brother Cycles email][/B] Here are a few more details regarding the frames:
    - Frame and fork in black £280 plus delivery (roughly $350)
    - Constructed from double-butted 4130 chromoly steel
    - Four sizes 55, 57, 59 and 61cm measured centre to top of lug
    - Geometry is track-like 74deg head tube, 60mm bottom bracket drop
    I came very close to ordering from them except their sizes run too big for me

    edit: If ur interested just write to them. They seem like nice peeps

    The prices had me really excited, but it turns out 280GBP is more like $415, and the uninsured shipping is $117. It still sounds like a good deal. I love the decals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elemental View Post
    The prices had me really excited, but it turns out 280GBP is more like $415, and the uninsured shipping is $117. It still sounds like a good deal. I love the decals.
    ah shucks. I'm an idiot. I converted euro instead of pounds, my bad. I'll edit the post above.
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    Pretty sure those Brother fames are made by Maxway (same as the BikeIsland frame).

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    +1 for the BI/SE/Fuji maxway frame. I also got the frame (only) for almost nothing. Took my dremel to it and sliced those cable stops off and grinded them carefully. A fresh powdercoat covered up any irregularities. Lugs came out fine. Have a chrome straight blade on it now. Can't vouch for the headset as mine didn't come with one but tange threaded headsets aren't too expensive. Love the bike. Doesn't ride like a track frame (which it isn't) but still pretty responsive. Good for a townie or distance. Nice for those on a budget.

    Scrod, it's funny how similar our builds are (frame, cranks, wheels, tires). If I kept the black Brooks I originally intended to use they could almost be twins (of another color).

    Oh, and the geo on the leader is a bit whack. Why is the TT so long?
    Last edited by robotphood; 05-12-10 at 09:29 PM.

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