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Old 05-15-10, 07:09 AM   #1
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VISP TRX790 Track Frame Build

I have read a few threads on this forum about this particular frame, I recently decided to buy one (58cm) and build it up.

Frame is ordered, parts ordered everything is being delivered as we speak. I will post updates of the build process, pictures, and issues that may develop in the next couple of weeks.

Here is a list of the components I have ordered for the build:

Easton EA50 XC Bar
Ritchey Comp Stem
Gravity Logo Seatpost
ACS Fat Freewheel 13T
Nuke Proof Element Skinny Lock On Grip
Kore Road Rim Tape
Spank Tweet Tweet Single Speed Chain
Airwave Road Tube
Selle Italia C2 Saddle
SwissStop Viking Brake Pads
Cane Creek Direct Curve Brake Lever
Shimano 105 Brakes Black 5600 - Front
SRAM S300 1.1 Chainset - 175mm 48t
Crank Brothers Acid 1 2010
Vittoria Rubino Pro Tyre
Halo Aerorage Track Wheel set

On top of this I ordered some new brake cabling, halo hex bolt wheel skewers and I think thatís about it. Sorry if I have forgotten anything, stay tuned.
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Old 05-15-10, 08:57 PM   #2
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What cable did you order? I settle for nothing less than Dura-Ace for my cable.

(It's the only Dura-Ace I can afford)
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Old 05-16-10, 06:07 AM   #3
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Run of the mill linear teflon coated stainless cable.
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Old 05-16-10, 07:16 AM   #4
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I buy Jagwire. But only because the name is hilarious.
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If you don't mind me asking, where did you find one and for how much?
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If you don't mind me asking, where did you find one and for how much?
Ebay is the place to go for visp frames.... search like "track frame" they go cheap; not sure about the price tho, I heard it varies....
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Here is mine I got it for around 120 shipped.


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Old 05-16-10, 01:11 PM   #8
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Hows about a cog?
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Here is mine I got it for around 120 shipped.

omfg your bike is so cute how did you even
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I want to replace my Leader at some point, and I'm considering either another Leader (one of the models with fat-but-not-aero tubing), a Kilo TT or possibly one of these Visp frames. I'd really love a Cinelli Vigorelli but I feel that riding these expensive frames on the road to get around town is kinda terrible. Do the Visp frames come with headset? Are they integrated or just hidden?
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Joker the frame was from eBay, just a hint over $200AUD which is cheap enough to replace if I find it's no good.

Mr Brown the cog I will use is a 13T freewheel.
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48/13 = 97 gear inches = holy hell!
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Old 05-17-10, 02:05 AM   #13
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ACS Fat Freewheel 13T
SRAM S300 1.1 Chainset - 175mm 48t
Enormous gear ratio is enormous.
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It's flat where I ride, but I will have a flip flop set up for when I need it..
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It's flat where I ride, but I will have a flip flop set up for when I need it..
even flat getting 97 gear inches started is some work if in traffic and or one city roads...
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Yeah I was thinking that, I was going to start large and work my way down, I have a 17T freewheel sitting around somewhere if I need it, I thought I would buy a new freewheel for a new build, I am used to having a larger crank too...

What ratio do you run @bleedingapple?
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Dude, start small and work your way up. You really don't want 97 gear inches. run 46/16, or something similar, it's plenty fast and still easy enough to get up to speed.
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I do appreciate your input, dude, however at the moment I am riding on either 97.6 or 85.4 depending on which gear I pick. Poor quality road bike I brought for a couple of hundred whilst I am in-between bikes. The bike I am riding has crap rubber; it is as heavy as the moon and not to mention the resistance from the moving parts. Oh and did I mention the size being about 8cms to small in the frame for my height... 46/16 is not plenty fast.
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Nothing wrong with a high gear ratio depending on how you use it. 97 inches might be fine for a flat TT, but it seems too high for everyday riding, even for a very strong rider, unless you spend most of your time above 30 mph. I wouldn't want to ride that in stop-and-go traffic or in a nasty headwind. I ride hills with 81 inches...it makes me work hard but it is fast. With that gear I can comfortably spin at speeds approaching 30mph. Gear any lower and my average speed goes down...mainly because I climb at the same rate, but can't get down the hills as fast. I will use a lower gear if I want to relax a bit and am less preoccupied about going fast.

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48 13 sounds ok to me especially for flat land riding. Only 2 teeth from 48x15 which I run. I am happy with mu gear just because of all the damn traffic lights I have to deal with. If you can have an open road with no distractions and are able to maintain a high speed then it should be ok. It's when you are doing a lot of accelerating with that ratio that it's bad on the knees. Too much torque and boom!
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So many variables ones choice will never suit the other guy; the main thing is to enjoy the experience.
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97 gear inches in the city is just poor form. Learn to spin.
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Digging the 97 gear inch ratio.

Strap on the boots and start moonstomping.
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Old 05-17-10, 10:30 AM   #24
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So many variables ones choice will never suit the other guy; the main thing is to enjoy the experience.
This is true, but there are constraints on human variation and, consequently, limitations to what gear ratios people can optimally ride. It is highly doubtful that 97 GI is the best gear for you unless you are literally TTing everywhere you go, on flat surfaces, with no traffic interuptions.
At any rate, you should experiment with different gear ratios and continue to experiment as you get stronger and faster. Knowing what gear ratio to choose is a good skill to develop. So many FG riders just ride around with whatever gear they are stuck in thinking that it is the best. The optimal gear ratio can change with your level of fitness, the time or year, the specific route you are planning of riding, your intended effort level, and a million other variables. Cogs are cheap, I change gear ratios all the time because I've ridden enough to develop an understanding of what works best for me and when. You should do the same.

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Here is mine I got it for around 120 shipped.

what is this i dont even
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