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Old 06-05-10, 07:58 AM   #1
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Leader 722TS, whats the word.

oh oh, i said Leader Really though, this frame looks super sweet. Its has a lot of what makes me like the kilo tt in it. Only issue I have with Leader, though, is that no fork is included... Anyway, just wondering what people thought of this frame. It is in my line up for a project bike for the summer.

kilo tt - might get a sweet deal on one.
Iro Jamie Roy - If I can find one! What I want the most too.
Leader 722TS - seems to be a happy medium of the 2.
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My friend had the Leader. It rode pretty nice, but with the steel fork Leader offers it looks kind of awkward with a gaping hole between the down tube and wheel. The hydroformed steel frame was pretty cool though, and fairly light. The geometry seems kinda weird too. He had a 55.

I own a Kilo tt, and I absolutely adore it. It was a little heavier than the leader but it always felt better riding because it soaked up bumps better.
Now that I think about it the geo on the Kilo is similar to the Leader. So I guess between the two it depends whether you like the more old old school design, more colors, and 1 inch headtube on the the Kilo TT or the more advanced looking Leader.
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The big thing that attracts me to the kilo tt is the price and the down tube. I have a soft spot for a non round tubes. I ride aluminum right now and have gotten used to most of the "harshness" of the ride. I Love my aluminum bike but want a steel frame once more to bust around the city more again, as my aluminum bike is for the track. The leader has the tubing I want for sure, though, less gloss on the raw would have been nicer...
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The big thing that attracts me to the kilo tt is the price and the down tube. I have a soft spot for a non round tubes.
Does the Kilo TT have a "non-round" (oval) down tube? Based on the BD specs, I thought it was just the top tube that is "ovalized" near the seat tube. Just asking cuz I don't own one.
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My friend had the Leader. It rode pretty nice, but with the steel fork Leader offers it looks kind of awkward with a gaping hole between the down tube and wheel. The hydroformed steel frame was pretty cool though, and fairly light. The geometry seems kinda weird too. He had a 55.
The weirdest part is the sizing. It seems very strange to offer 525-530-535 top tubes and then jump 545-570-595 on the big end. I think it would make much more sense to offer more closely spaced sizes in the seemingly more common size range, or to spread them evenly.
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Does the Kilo TT have a "non-round" (oval) down tube? Based on the BD specs, I thought it was just the top tube that is "ovalized" near the seat tube. Just asking cuz I don't own one.
Yes,the down tube of the Kilo is aero/oval. At least it is on mine.
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it's teardrop shaped near the headtube.

and it has always been. it's actually extremely cool when you first see and feel it.
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