looking for better wheelset suggestions
07-14-10, 03:53 PM
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looking for better wheelset suggestions
I'm starting to think about upgrading my wheels. starting looking at some hed 3's and deep carbon cane creeks.
what are some other good carbon wheels out there? my main problem is i don't want to spend a grand on wheels. but i want a decent improvement if i'm going to get anything new at all.
i currently have dp18s and they're good enough but i want something better.
i really like the way aerospokes look, but i only hear negative things about their performance. so my question is, what are my options? looking at clinchers only.
what are some other good carbon wheels out there? my main problem is i don't want to spend a grand on wheels. but i want a decent improvement if i'm going to get anything new at all.
i currently have dp18s and they're good enough but i want something better.
i really like the way aerospokes look, but i only hear negative things about their performance. so my question is, what are my options? looking at clinchers only.
07-14-10, 03:59 PM
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Um still waiting for these Reynolds Recons to show up again on the internets for $500 or less!!!!
These are $480ish but freakin Machined!!!
https://cgi.ebay.com/Milwaukee-Bicycl...item2eae1b8734
WTF! I want full carbon Clinchers!!!
These are $480ish but freakin Machined!!!
https://cgi.ebay.com/Milwaukee-Bicycl...item2eae1b8734
WTF! I want full carbon Clinchers!!!
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07-14-10, 04:09 PM
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for instance if i found that reynolds wheel set for less than 500, i'd be all over it. just didn't know about those wheels until now.
07-14-10, 04:27 PM
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These are $480ish but freakin Machined!!!
https://cgi.ebay.com/Milwaukee-Bicycl...item2eae1b8734
WTF! I want full carbon Clinchers!!!
07-14-10, 04:40 PM
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if you look on ebay, there are carbon (aluminum rim with carbon fairing) clincher rims for $100.
There are also some full carbon tubular rims for a lot more.
There are also some full carbon tubular rims for a lot more.
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I'd smack my gramma for a set of S80s: https://greatdividecyclery.com/produc...e4535-qc53.htm
Nevermind they're heavier than my formula/open pros... look how goddamn sexy they are.
Nevermind they're heavier than my formula/open pros... look how goddamn sexy they are.
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07-14-10, 05:10 PM
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no separate question. is it better to have a more aero wheel in front or rear?
07-14-10, 05:15 PM
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front has more benefits for aero.
rear wheel has the seat tube in front of it, so there's not a lot of benefits to aero.
On the other hand, on windy days, you might wish for a front wheel that doesn't catch as much wind.
rear wheel has the seat tube in front of it, so there's not a lot of benefits to aero.
On the other hand, on windy days, you might wish for a front wheel that doesn't catch as much wind.
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07-14-10, 05:20 PM
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looking on ebay i notice that these carbon rims are often made for geared bikes. i would definitely need track hubs right?
also any suggestions for 3-5 spoke wheels?
also any suggestions for 3-5 spoke wheels?
07-14-10, 05:23 PM
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OP - Sorry to tell ya, but you are about 6 months late. Cane Creek had an insane blowout of their carbon tubular wheels, and I picked up a set for $500 and an additional rear for $200. They retailed for $1600 a set, but Cane Creek has gotten out of the wheel business, so about the best you can hope for is a used set on eBay. I also have the tubular version of the Milwaukee Bicycle Company track wheels, and the hubs and rims are excellent, but the build quality was terrible and I had to true them up a bunch before using them.
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07-14-10, 05:27 PM
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OP - Sorry to tell ya, but you are about 6 months late. Cane Creek had an insane blowout of their carbon tubular wheels, and I picked up a set for $500 and an additional rear for $200. They retailed for $1600 a set, but Cane Creek has gotten out of the wheel business, so about the best you can hope for is a used set on eBay. I also have the tubular version of the Milwaukee Bicycle Company track wheels, and the hubs and rims are excellent, but the built quality was terrible and I had to true them up a bunch before using them.
when you say the build quality, you mean the lacing right? i don't have a truing stand but i have messed with my wheels before using my fork.
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What I mean is that the wheels were not true, round and centered with even and sufficient spoke tension. By contrast, the Cane Creeks were built perfectly with high spoke tension, and have remained perfect since I started using them.
07-14-10, 05:41 PM
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so if i get the ebay wheels, do you think i should bring them to a shop or you think i could handle it? i wouldn't be able to fix it if it was out of round i don't think. i can easily fix left/right adjustments though. i also don't know much about dish.
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OP - Sorry to tell ya, but you are about 6 months late. Cane Creek had an insane blowout of their carbon tubular wheels, and I picked up a set for $500 and an additional rear for $200. They retailed for $1600 a set, but Cane Creek has gotten out of the wheel business, so about the best you can hope for is a used set on eBay. I also have the tubular version of the Milwaukee Bicycle Company track wheels, and the hubs and rims are excellent, but the build quality was terrible and I had to true them up a bunch before using them.
Regret always overwhelms to my mind whenever I remember this.
Only if the sale was 2 weeks later......
I would've had the money to buy a set! 
07-14-10, 05:55 PM
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Yeah, you prolly need to take them to a shop if they're anything like mine were. To get the wheels centered you need a dishing tool or a good truing stand. One good thing about these wheels is that since the rear is a fixed/fixed flip/flop, they are completely symmetric and there is no dish, so the spoke tension is the same on both sides. Also, they include a special Park spoke wrench, which is needed to work on the internal spoke nipples that are inside the rim.
07-15-10, 05:34 AM
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before i buy these Milwaukee wheels. are there any 3-5 spoke wheel suggestions?
07-15-10, 09:53 AM
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I agree. I keep trying to find a wheelset that beats my stock bontrager wheels on my T1 for weight and keep coming up short. 1950g for the pair is damn light. Those carbon ones above are just shy of 2300g.
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if i own a mavic io it will never see the streets.
plus u can get 5+ Hed3s for the price of a io
plus u can get 5+ Hed3s for the price of a io
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I had an IO but had to sell it because I couldn't control it in windy conditions; it's really intended to be used on indoor velodromes where there is no wind. Also, they are rather heavy, almost as heavy as a carbon disc. It was freakishly fast though, and I would have set my best times on it if I just could have controlled it.