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Old 07-15-10, 03:06 AM   #1
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Questions about my build - especially hed3 compatibility

I am wondering about the compatability of a HED3 listed below with a frame and fork I have already purchased?

I am building a fixed gear, the item description for the HED3 rear wheel says "Accepts Shimano 8/9/10 speed cassettes." Is this going to work? All information regarding the rest of my build is appreciated!


FRAME Purchased: Leader 735TR white.

FORK Purchased: http://www.thenew3t.com/details.aspx...&p=funda&d=PRO

HED3 IN QUESTION: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...#ht_500wt_1154

PLEASE HELP!
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Old 07-15-10, 03:25 AM   #2
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Well the HED3 is a rear wheel if you're planning on putting it on your fork you need a front wheel.
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a fool and his money.
Agreed I would never even consider spending money like that if I didn't know what I was doing. Even if I was a professional bike mechanic I don't think I'd blow money on some Heds unless I was way more into the racing scene.
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Not only is that a rear wheel. Its also for a geared road bike, and a tubular. Just buy a aerojoke if you want a aero looking wheel. I didnt look at the fork, but i hope that works with your bike and you did not just buy a random fork.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah..

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Not only is that a rear wheel. Its also for a geared road bike, and a tubular. Just buy a aerojoke if you want a aero looking wheel. I didnt look at the fork, but i hope that works with your bike and you did not just buy a random fork.


I understand that it is a rear wheel, and geared for road biking, and that the rear wheel does NOT attach to the fork. Im not quite that illiterate.

I am interested in converting the Shimano cassette Freehub for fixed-gear use and if anyone has any experience doing this?

I came across some information about an adapter that replaces the Shimano Freehub body with a rigid aluminum block that is threaded for a fixed sprocket and lock ring.

And I am not necessarily interested in a aero, I like the trispoke and haven't quite found an alternative I would like more than the HED. Expense yeah, but ill deal. For a backup I am looking for a 700c wheelset, real deep somewhere around the 45-60 mm to complement the 735tr.

Any suggestions?
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I understand that it is a rear wheel, and geared for road biking, and that the rear wheel does NOT attach to the fork. Im not quite that illiterate.

I am interested in converting the Shimano cassette Freehub for fixed-gear use and if anyone has any experience doing this?
Normally you have to order that stuff from the factory, and even then its hit or miss if they will sell it to you. Also I was commenting on the rake of the fork, but was being very vague. That wheel is still a tubular which is not recommended for every day use.
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I understand that it is a rear wheel, and geared for road biking, and that the rear wheel does NOT attach to the fork. Im not quite that illiterate.
...so why were you asking if it was compatible with your fork?

And about trying to convert your cassette into a fixed cog... you're obviously dumping a lot of money into this build, and doing what you're talking about will undoubtedly end up looking amateurish and ghetto. If you're going to put in the money for a nice build, don't ruin it by throwing some cheesy "FIXIE ADAPTER KIT" on your drivetrain. Ben's sells HED 3 rear *track wheels*. And they're clinchers. Get one of those.
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i can sell you a surly fixxer. i ended up never using it.
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The Hed track adaptors are very scarce. There are a few years and models of Dura Ace freehubs that will not be compatible with the Surly Fixxer.

Super deep wheels can be had, most likely custom built. Or you can drop more than a grand for a prebuilt set.

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Old 07-16-10, 01:22 AM   #12
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Well, the auction ended and I pray that you werent the winner.
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The HED track adapter doesn't have a lip for a lockring.

Sorry. No skids for you...or pedal-braking.

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Nope.. Didn't end up bidding on the hed rear. The price plus the hassle and answers on here kept me from my trispoke dreams. I'm now looking into some super deep carbon rims and talking to my LBS on setting up the wheelsets after I purchase the rims.. Any suggestions on some deep carbon clinchers? How about preference on a sexy set of hubs for my build?
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Zipp 520, 81 mm deep, $855 each.
http://www.wheelbuilder.com/store/zi...-zipp-520.html


How deep do you want it?
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Zipp 520, 81 mm deep, $855 each.
http://www.wheelbuilder.com/store/zi...-zipp-520.html


How deep do you want it?


I was thinking somewhere between 50-68 mm.

Something along the lines of this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-full-carbon-...ht_3057wt_1099

Mind you i'm only referring to the rims on that auction and trying to find similar.
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Maybe you should do a little more research before buying anything. Sounds like you have all the money with non of the knowledge. It would be to your benefit to educate yourself on these bikes and parts before dropping coin on anything.

Just a thought.
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There's been some talk about using similar race wheels on the boards lately. I wonder if this video had anything to do with it:


It's a pretty expensive idea.

...looks cool, though.


You guys may not realize that when you see deep carbon rims they are either:
- on the track which is free of debris...on race days.
- ridden on a special occasion like race days.
- ridden by pros in races who have a support car to give them fresh wheels when they flat.
- ridden by people who don't have a tight bike budget...but still only on race days

Basically, if you are broke (or close to it) this is the worst decision you can make as far as bike gear goes.

To put this in perspective: Look at the types of wheels these guys use on their daily training rides:

You can see the wheels of 4 bikes in that photo during a winter training ride. They only bust out the carbon on race days.

But, far be it for me to tell you guys how to waste money.
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Prepared to pay in limbs if you want deep dish carbon clinchers.
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But how often do cool, hip, slick dudes ride them? EVERYDAY
I mean, those dudes wearing the spandex? Totally not cool. No one wants to be like them.


/end sarcasm
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But how often do cool, hip, slick dudes ride them? EVERYDAY
I mean, those dudes wearing the spandex? Totally not cool. No one wants to be like them.


/end sarcasm
Hahaha good one. On a related note: As I recall, a certain group of MASH fellows jizzed in their pants when one of the spandex-wearing dudes in the photo above rode a few blocks with them.
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Haha, true. BUT he wore "street" clothes on that ride.
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