Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Singlespeed & Fixed Gear
Reload this Page >

Best tire to avoid pinch flats - aggressive riding

Search
Notices
Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

Best tire to avoid pinch flats - aggressive riding

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-17-10, 05:32 PM
  #1  
Veteran Racer
Thread Starter
 
TejanoTrackie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Ciudad de Vacas, Tejas
Posts: 11,757

Bikes: 32 frames + 80 wheels

Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1331 Post(s)
Liked 764 Times in 431 Posts
Best tire to avoid pinch flats - aggressive riding

I'm looking for a tire that is good against pinch flats when riding aggressively, but that still offers reasonably low rolling resistance and doesn't weigh a ton. I looked up Panaracer's website and they rate the RibMO as best in avoiding pinch flats as well as puncture protection. Fyxation also claims very good pinch flat protection, but they are very expensive, nearly $50 apiece. I'm looking at between 700 x 28c and 700 x 32c for size. Currently the bike has 25c Kendas rated at only 90 psi, and I've already managed to get a pinch flat on the rear. I'd like your opinions/experiences on these 2 tires and any others that you think would be a good choice for this type of riding. Thanks.
__________________
What, Me Worry? - Alfred E. Neuman

Originally Posted by Dcv
I'd like to think i have as much money as brains.
I see the light at the end of the tunnel, but the tunnel keeps getting longer - me
TejanoTrackie is offline  
Old 07-17-10, 05:38 PM
  #2  
Fresh Garbage
 
hairnet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 13,190

Bikes: N+1

Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 352 Post(s)
Liked 27 Times in 18 Posts
Pinch flat protection? Appropriate PSI or tubular tires

I have RibMO 25mm on my fixed gear and it's pretty tough, no punctures for the whole life of the rear tire. I've been running of PSIMET's advice and have been without pinch flats

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...tip-of-the-Day
Tire Width=20: Pressure(psi) = (0.33 * Rider Weight in lbs) + 63.33
Tire Width=23: Pressure(psi) = (0.33 * Rider Weight in lbs) + 53.33
Tire Width=25: Pressure(psi) = (0.33 * Rider Weight in lbs) + 43.33
Tire Width=28: Pressure(psi) = (0.33 * Rider Weight in lbs) + 33.33

Tire Width=32: Pressure(psi) = (0.17 * Rider Weight in lbs) + 41.67
Tire Width=37: Pressure(psi) = (0.17 * Rider Weight in lbs) + 26.67


Example: You are 150lbs running 28's

Pressure (psi) = (0.33*150) +33.33 = 82.83psi (rear)
Front Pressure = .9*Rear Pressure = .9*82.83psi = 74.55psi front

Last edited by hairnet; 07-17-10 at 05:45 PM.
hairnet is offline  
Old 07-17-10, 05:44 PM
  #3  
Should be out Riding
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Blacksburg, VA
Posts: 1,902

Bikes: Bob Jackson Vigorelli

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 1 Post
Tubeless are the best bet.
lvleph is offline  
Old 07-17-10, 06:03 PM
  #4  
Veteran Racer
Thread Starter
 
TejanoTrackie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Ciudad de Vacas, Tejas
Posts: 11,757

Bikes: 32 frames + 80 wheels

Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1331 Post(s)
Liked 764 Times in 431 Posts
Yeah, tubulars for sure, but this is a cheap urban FG that has sturdy clinchers that I don't want to change, and of course will not accept tubeless. I weigh 140 lbs, so based on the chart, I should be running 90 psi in the rear with 25c tires, which I was, but quite frankly I was messing around and got a pinch flat anyway. That's why I'm thinking of going either 28c or 32c. I don't ride my other bikes this way, so it's not a problem.

@hairnet - do the RibMOs run large, small or true to rated size? My experience with the Panaracer Pasela TG is that it runs small, such that a 32c is more like a 28c and a 28c is more like a 25c. However the 35c on my Kilo WT is exactly 35c.
__________________
What, Me Worry? - Alfred E. Neuman

Originally Posted by Dcv
I'd like to think i have as much money as brains.
I see the light at the end of the tunnel, but the tunnel keeps getting longer - me

Last edited by TejanoTrackie; 07-17-10 at 06:47 PM.
TejanoTrackie is offline  
Old 07-17-10, 07:47 PM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Flagler Palm Coast, FL
Posts: 1,959

Bikes: 1986 Fuji Allegro 12 Spd; 2015 Bianchi Kuma 27.2 24 Spd; 1997 Fuji MX-200 21 Spd; 2010 Vilano SS/FG 46/16

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I run max pressure 100 psi, regardless of tire and conditions. I figure if it leaks slowly it'll get to the optimal formula pressure. Never had a pinch flat, rolling resistance is minimized, no wasted energy and effort, the tread on either side of the road contact area never gets worn, but it's there for leaning turns. It's never going to get worn anyway. Brake pads do the stopping not the tires and are considerably cheaper and easier to replace than the tires.
fuji86 is offline  
Old 07-18-10, 11:40 AM
  #6  
Fresh Garbage
 
hairnet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 13,190

Bikes: N+1

Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 352 Post(s)
Liked 27 Times in 18 Posts
I guess just run higher psi, TT. What were you doing when you got the flat? The last time I really hit a bump hard I banged a flat spot into my rear rim but the tire stayed inflated, so I'm curious what you did.
hairnet is offline  
Old 07-18-10, 12:13 PM
  #7  
Veteran Racer
Thread Starter
 
TejanoTrackie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Ciudad de Vacas, Tejas
Posts: 11,757

Bikes: 32 frames + 80 wheels

Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1331 Post(s)
Liked 764 Times in 431 Posts
Originally Posted by hairnet
I guess just run higher psi, TT. What were you doing when you got the flat? The last time I really hit a bump hard I banged a flat spot into my rear rim but the tire stayed inflated, so I'm curious what you did.
Well, I was at the max rated pressure for this tire (Kenda 700 x 25c), which is only 90 psi. I have a Conti Grand Prix 4000 25c on another geared wheel, which is rated at 120 psi max, so perhaps that tire would have fared better. As to what I was doing at the time, I was messing around in the parking area of a large mall, and tried to jump down from a walkway to the parking lot while clearing six steps, but didn't quite clear it and my rear wheel hit the edge of the last step, which caused an instant snake bite pinch flat. I have done this sort of stuff with an old rigid MTB that has 26 x 1.5" (38mm) hybrid tires on it w/o any problems, but this is the first time I've done it on such narrow tires. I have gotten pinch flats before on high pressure 700 x 23c tires on the road when I ran across rough railroad tracks or bad potholes. Anyway, regarding the RibMOs, what is their max rated inflation pressure, and do they run smaller, larger or the same size as rated? Unless, someone chimes in with something else, I think I'll get these, just can't decide if 28c or 32c.
__________________
What, Me Worry? - Alfred E. Neuman

Originally Posted by Dcv
I'd like to think i have as much money as brains.
I see the light at the end of the tunnel, but the tunnel keeps getting longer - me
TejanoTrackie is offline  
Old 07-18-10, 12:18 PM
  #8  
Beausage is Beautiful
 
Fugazi Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Saitama, Japan
Posts: 5,504

Bikes: Nabiis Alchemy

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 13 Times in 8 Posts
Get wide rims and big tires, if your frame will accommodate. The longer the 700c trick thing evolves, the wider people seem to be going. You can't jump six steps and expect nothing to happen. You're on a road bike.
__________________
Yo. Everything I’m doing is linked on What’s up with Dave? but most of note currently is Somewhere in Japan.
Fugazi Dave is offline  
Old 07-18-10, 12:31 PM
  #9  
Fresh Garbage
 
hairnet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 13,190

Bikes: N+1

Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 352 Post(s)
Liked 27 Times in 18 Posts
My 25mm Ribmo is 25mm

Well, I was at the max rated pressure for this tire (Kenda 700 x 25c), which is only 90 psi. I have a Conti Grand Prix 4000 25c on another geared wheel, which is rated at 120 psi max, so perhaps that tire would have fared better
ehh I never really pay attention to that stuff

Last edited by hairnet; 07-18-10 at 12:36 PM.
hairnet is offline  
Old 07-18-10, 01:34 PM
  #10  
Hard times comin your way
 
OjaiYoda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Santa Cruz
Posts: 66

Bikes: Bertin fixed gear conversion, 60's Raleigh road bike, 2001 Gary Fisher Wahoo single speed conversion

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
armadillo 700x23 at 120 psi. no flats ever.
OjaiYoda is offline  
Old 07-18-10, 01:51 PM
  #11  
a.k.a. QUADZILLA
 
LoRoK's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Denver
Posts: 1,505

Bikes: Super Pista, Basso, Big Dummy

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
As to what I was doing at the time, I was messing around in the parking area of a large mall, and tried to jump down from a walkway to the parking lot while clearing six steps, but didn't quite clear it and my rear wheel hit the edge of the last step, which caused an instant snake bite pinch flat.
Aren't you like 60 years old? And you're jumping 6 sets? That's pretty badass.
LoRoK is offline  
Old 07-18-10, 01:59 PM
  #12  
Senior Member
 
cnnrmccloskey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Portland Oregon
Posts: 744

Bikes: '82 Giante super challange, 70 Gitane Tour de France, GT Gutterball

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by LoRoK
Aren't you like 60 years old? And you're jumping 6 sets? That's pretty badass.
I didn't think trejano was that old, but regardless my thoughts were similar
cnnrmccloskey is offline  
Old 07-18-10, 02:12 PM
  #13  
Fresh Garbage
 
hairnet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 13,190

Bikes: N+1

Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 352 Post(s)
Liked 27 Times in 18 Posts
Originally Posted by OjaiYoda
armadillo 700x23 at 120 psi. no flats ever.
wrong kind of flats


Originally Posted by LoRoK
Aren't you like 60 years old? And you're jumping 6 sets? That's pretty badass.
I had that image in my head, but I couldnt get it through
hairnet is offline  
Old 07-18-10, 02:14 PM
  #14  
Banana-tastic!
 
JesusBananas's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 1,969
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by OjaiYoda
armadillo 700x23 at 120 psi. no flats ever.
Excellent, excellent tire but a bit heavy and ~$50 each, so probably not exactly what Tejano is looking for. However, in my opinion, I can agree that this absolutely is the best tire for flat protection (in terms of regular riding).
JesusBananas is offline  
Old 07-18-10, 03:46 PM
  #15  
Veteran Racer
Thread Starter
 
TejanoTrackie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Ciudad de Vacas, Tejas
Posts: 11,757

Bikes: 32 frames + 80 wheels

Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1331 Post(s)
Liked 764 Times in 431 Posts
Originally Posted by LoRoK
Aren't you like 60 years old? And you're jumping 6 steps? That's pretty badass.
Hey, thanks for the props man. They were rather shallow steps, so it was maybe only a two foot drop and it's a piece of cake on my rigid mtb with phat tires. I am indeed 64, but not your typical oldster, and there are guys my age and even older that do fun stuff like this. Age is just in your mind.
__________________
What, Me Worry? - Alfred E. Neuman

Originally Posted by Dcv
I'd like to think i have as much money as brains.
I see the light at the end of the tunnel, but the tunnel keeps getting longer - me
TejanoTrackie is offline  
Old 07-18-10, 11:17 PM
  #16  
Banana-tastic!
 
JesusBananas's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 1,969
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Woah, really? I just sort of assumed that you were 30-40ish. That's damn badass.

Like, totally rad, bro.
JesusBananas is offline  
Old 07-18-10, 11:21 PM
  #17  
GONE~
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 6,747
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by JesusBananas
Like, totally rad, bro.
Dude, that's like, TOTAALLY my line, man.

EDIT: I mean dudette.
Squirrelli is offline  
Old 07-19-10, 08:12 AM
  #18  
Nü-Fred
 
ichitz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 1,517

Bikes: Torelli Tipo Uno (stolen), Peugeot Nice, Mercier Kilo TT

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
TT is amazing......

anyway, never rode the RibMo tires, but I run panaracer paselas and they are pretty nice tires so I totally vouch for panaracers.
ichitz is offline  
Old 07-19-10, 09:42 AM
  #19  
Banana-tastic!
 
JesusBananas's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 1,969
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Vixtor
Dude, that's like, TOTAALLY my line, man.

EDIT: I mean dudette.


Don't sweat it, brah. (Does that make me a brah-ette? Hm . . . )
JesusBananas is offline  
Old 07-20-10, 10:33 AM
  #20  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Montreal Quebec, Plateau
Posts: 360

Bikes: 91 bridgestone rb-2, Univega viva sport, 04 masi Nouva Strada,Dave Scott Ironman, Changes like every month

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Schwalbe marathons, but they run "big"
TL179 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
ceelint
General Cycling Discussion
2
05-09-16 02:36 PM
novemberhotel
Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg)
13
03-03-16 03:34 PM
jskash
Hybrid Bicycles
6
05-18-14 06:34 PM
ThePritchett
Singlespeed & Fixed Gear
11
10-15-10 04:36 PM
Sigel
Road Cycling
10
04-28-10 06:09 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.