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Old 07-18-10, 01:57 AM   #1
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Campagnolo shamal?

So I've seen a couple of fixed bikes on the street with campy shamal wheels/ wheelset... (90's version; purple & black logos on raw polished aluminium)

Just would like to know some more about them from perhaps people who have ridden/ do own a set... more specifically the ride quality of them.

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theyre heavy.
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theyre heavy.
But have been proven to be more aerodynamic than the much-deeper Zipp 404




They are ridiculously hard to find.
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They are ridiculously hard to find.
and expensive if you do find them
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They are ridiculously hard to find.
Good point. Which makes the track equivalent much more harder.... is it possible that people re laced a shamal rim to a track hub?
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Good point. Which makes the track equivalent much more harder.... is it possible that people re laced a shamal rim to a track hub?
I would not be surprised
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I heart these rims so much. I wish you could get aluminum rims that deep nowadays.
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i have the gipiemme copy. these guys thought of bubbled out rims way ahead of the curve.
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i have the gipiemme copy. these guys thought of bubbled out rims way ahead of the curve.
A teammate of mine races the Gipiemme copy as well (tubular version). It's pretty solid and fast, too.
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i have the gipiemme copy. these guys thought of bubbled out rims way ahead of the curve.

The 716?
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The 716?
Yup

"Tecno 716" There are a couple of different label styles:
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Good point. Which makes the track equivalent much more harder.... is it possible that people re laced a shamal rim to a track hub?
Yes you can, but you will need a hub with a low spoke whole that is most likely custom ala PW. Can be done, just gets expensive quickly
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Yes you can, but you will need a hub with a low spoke whole that is most likely custom ala PW. Can be done, just gets expensive quickly


14 front, 16 rear. Custom phil wood hubs. Single fixed rear. Slotted. Low profile. 2002 shamal rims. Rims were approximately $500 MSRP. NOS. Heavy as **** - 690g/rim. These were the latest version of the rims before the shamal ultras recently (which look nothing alike).

The silver versions were 12 spoke even. Again, those rims nos are floating around (have a pair in the shop). They were a stock campy 8 speed road wheelset type rims.

P.S The rims MUST be laced in their original fashion, meaning radial front and radial left/1x rear. The rims are drilled specifically for this. That means that realistically either the original hubs or beefy hubs designed for radial lacing can be used.

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thats a waste.
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Wait so the shamal 12 spoke version was road only?
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you must shop in yorkville with that kind of dough.
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I heart these rims so much. I wish you could get aluminum rims that deep nowadays.
With that bubbled aero profile... or just that deep?

www.hplusson.com
Lighter than the velocity wheels, and come polished too... though low spoke count isn't offered right now (24, 28, 32, 36). 615gram average.


Also, regaurding relacing.... can't you just use a higher hole count hub and skip holes? Assuming radial is ok with the hubs.
14 hole rim to 28hole hub?
16 hole rim to 32hole hub?
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Yup

"Tecno 716" There are a couple of different label styles:
Alright I think I'll give these a try; where can I order these in the states?
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Call 1-800-20yearsago

Ebay maybe
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Ebay maybe
Pretty much. These are hard to find, too.
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thats a waste.
Same thing I thought. Shamals on a Capo ??? But, then again as far as ff/ss is concerned these are the days of wack Bikes Direct and if its Campagnolo put it on a sub $300 bike. "i know I'm faster now that I have theses Campy chainring bolts."
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Pretty much. These are hard to find, too.
I'd be better off finding the shamal then...

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