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Old 07-20-10, 12:09 PM   #1
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BI nickle-plated lugged frame

Has anyone here built up this BI nickle-plated lugged frame....specifically in the 54, 56,58 size? What is the true stand-over height of each when 700cx25~28 tires are mounted? Is there much toe overlap? What is the quality of the plating like? Were the rear-end and fork-end width measurements true?

I'd like to build this up until I learn how to weld my own lugged frame one day when I retire. I'd like to add a bottle-cage boss on the seat-tube for longer rides. How is the ride for longer (50+miles, flat-easy hills) road rides? I'd like to mask-off the tubes and paint it leaving the lugs and ends exposed.

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Old 07-20-10, 01:50 PM   #2
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The actual standover height on my 58cm SE Premium Brew (same exact frame & fork) is 31.8" with 25c Panaracer Paselas. No toe overlap at all with size large MKS clips.
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Thanks...so its more road-worthy comfy than pure track hyper vigilant riding, right? Just curious, how much does your set-up weigh? Gearing side, 2~3lbs diff on a sub-23lb bike doesn't matter much to my clydesdalian behemothness, but 2~3lbs over a 25+lb bike might be bronto bummer when I want to start climbing long hills with any semblence of sexy efficiency.

Or should I say aaaaaahfaaaaakit and go get a 58cm Wabi Special? Richard's store is only 2-hours away from me.

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Has anyone here built up this BI nickle-plated lugged frame....specifically in the 54, 56,58 size? What is the true stand-over height of each when 700cx25~28 tires are mounted? Is there much toe overlap? What is the quality of the plating like? Were the rear-end and fork-end width measurements true?

I'd like to build this up until I learn how to weld my own lugged frame one day when I retire. I'd like to add a bottle-cage boss on the seat-tube for longer rides. How is the ride for longer (50+miles, flat-easy hills) road rides? I'd like to mask-off the tubes and paint it leaving the lugs and ends exposed.

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I have a se brew in 54. No overlap. Width measurements true. Good for long rides. Road geo.

Weight sub 20lb should be attainable.

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My bike as it sits right now weighs 19.4 lbs and is comfy as all heck.
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Wow...good info on as-tested weights if your components aren't made of super-exotic light-weight materials. So I can more or less count on sub-21lbs on a 58cm frame-set using med-grade competent components' ie. dropbar, f/r brake-set, stems, bottle cage(s), seat, clipless peds, ss/fg wheelset, puncture resistant training tires. Sounds good to me!

I'm going to guess my Soho S weighs 23~25lbs with its 44/17 gearing. The gearing works ok for me right now when I'm bonking or a slight hill presents itself or the headwinds blow or a combo thereof mocks my efforts....but might want to step up to slightly bigger inches, though, on my dream fixie as I become stronger riding in my aeroadynamic tuck

Forgive me if this sounds elementary, but what's a prudent step-up after 44/17 on a drop-bar road geometry fixie that will work my slower spinning legs (50~80-ish rpms on the flats), but not destroy my 55 y.o. knees?
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46/17?

My bike is a bit under 19. The only thing I would call "light" on my bike is the aluminum syntace stratos bars. Components are just average: 300g seatpost, san marco concor, sugino xd crank (44/17), sun m13 wheels, panaracer pasela tg tires.
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robot - have you posted pics of yours anywhere?

My Brooks adds some weight to my bike. Also, I lied (oops). Last time I weighed it, I had a front brake.
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http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8893/imag0069n.jpg

Front is back to a m13 and I did change the saddle position
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How long is that stem?
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I remember that bike now. That red looks great.
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Stem is 50mm. I had a 60 nitto deluxe on previously but I traded my cousin for vanity reasons (gunmetal vs silver finish). Didn't think the 10mm would be a big deal. Visually it looks tiny in comparison. Since I wrapped my bars already it's going to stay for a while.
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