Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-19-10, 11:04 PM   #1
vladuz976
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
vladuz976's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Shibuya, Tokyo
Bikes: Cannondale Bad Boy Disc, Cinelli Gazzetta custom
Posts: 326
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Good Locks

Just read the thread about thiefs caught.
I am really scared that mine is not safe enough after reading this.

I basically have a metal chain and a separate lock to close the ends.
I heard the lock is usually the weakest link and easy to brake.

What lock would be really save?


I'll probably get a Kryptonite U-Lock for work, where I leave the bike for most of the day, but for the city, shopping and restaurant or gym stops, I'd like to carry a little lighter lock with me.
vladuz976 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-10, 11:08 PM   #2
seejohnbike
Disgruntled Grad Student
 
seejohnbike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Bikes: CAAD 10, Cross Pro, Cross Comp, TK2
Posts: 446
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
krypto mini-evo, or NY lock are excellent u-lock solutions.

if you want REALLY beefy, I have the older generation NY-lock/faggedaboudit (sp?) chain, and it's great. the newest generation is even beefier.

also: in before the (other) lock(s)...

Last edited by seejohnbike; 08-19-10 at 11:38 PM. Reason: anything for a joke...
seejohnbike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-10, 11:12 PM   #3
vladuz976
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
vladuz976's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Shibuya, Tokyo
Bikes: Cannondale Bad Boy Disc, Cinelli Gazzetta custom
Posts: 326
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by seejohnbike View Post
krypto mini-evo, or NY lock are excellent u-lock solutions.
if you want REALLY beefy, I have the older generation NY-lock/faggedaboudit (sp?) chain, and it's great. the newest generation is even beefier.
got a link to that NY lock you're recommending?
vladuz976 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-10, 11:14 PM   #4
Squirrelli
GONE~
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Bikes:
Posts: 6,757
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I have Planet bikes' version of Faghettabutit? and it is extremely thick. On the down side, I had to carry ~7lb of stuff everytime I have to make a stop of some sort.

Be sure to check out this thread for some locking advice.
Squirrelli is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-10, 11:18 PM   #5
Dr. Banzai
Oscillation overthruster
 
Dr. Banzai's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Duncan, BC
Bikes: Cinelli Mash / CAAD9 5
Posts: 1,532
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I'm gonna buy one of those mec/PB mini u-locks. I'm tired of lugging a 348 pound lock around.

If they want it, they'll take it. I just want to deter the n00bs and the meth heads.
Dr. Banzai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-10, 11:18 PM   #6
seejohnbike
Disgruntled Grad Student
 
seejohnbike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Bikes: CAAD 10, Cross Pro, Cross Comp, TK2
Posts: 446
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
https://www.kryptonitelock.com/produ...=1002&pid=1168

here's the new hotness. there are also a few slightly more reasonable ny lock/chain combos, but overall, if you want your bike safe, these are pretty much the way to go.

I've found that with the 3'3" chain I have, normally I just lock a wheel and the frame, but if I'm leaving it anywhere for an extended period of time, I can thread the chain through both wheels and the rear triangle, and around whatever I'm locking to (street sign/light pole). It's great if I ever have to leave my bike outside at night for any extended period of time.

the new one that i linked to might have links that are a little too fat to easily slip through spokes, but it's still probably possible, and if not, one of the other, smaller chains will definitely work for that purpose too.

addition: banzai, true, if they want the whole bike, they'll get it, but at the same time, being able to lock both wheels and the frame eliminates the most expensive single pieces from wandering away from your bike. If there's anything worse than coming to find your whole bike stolen, it's coming to find that a wheel has gone missing because you didn't lock it.

OP: in general, a solid ulock will be fine. However, if you're like me and dont like leaving parts for the taking with a mere 15mm, then either get a chain and lock wheels and frame, or get an auxiliary lock for the other wheel if you plan on locking up for an extended time or overnight.

Last edited by seejohnbike; 08-19-10 at 11:27 PM.
seejohnbike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-10, 11:25 PM   #7
Leukybear
THE STUFFED
 
Leukybear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Sandy Eggo, CA
Bikes: Sworks Venge; Rock Lobster; EAI Bareknuckle
Posts: 12,157
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 46 Post(s)
Kryptonite's mini evo or onguard's pitbull mini in conjunction with a accessory cable for those slightly longer lock ups.

In my opinion the new york locks are just overkill to carry around.... I have the one john posted for longer lock ups (got it for cheap on CL after a guy figured <--<--<-- that out); I still havent figured out how people wear it around their waist and not be bothered by a 10+ pound "belt".....

And don't people in japan use only cable locks and those aluminum palmy u locks to lock up their nice NJS bikes because deliberate bike theft isn't such a threat?
__________________
pɐǝɹ oʇ sᴉ sᴉɥʇ ƃuᴉʎouuɐ ʍoɥ ǝǝs

Quote:
Originally Posted by veganbikes View Post
Pound sign: Kilo TT
Leukybear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-10, 11:35 PM   #8
vladuz976
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
vladuz976's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Shibuya, Tokyo
Bikes: Cannondale Bad Boy Disc, Cinelli Gazzetta custom
Posts: 326
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
that thread from the lock smith guy is perfect.
thanks.
vladuz976 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-10, 01:13 PM   #9
adriano 
*
 
adriano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Baltimore
Bikes: http://velospace.org/node/18951
Posts: 6,879
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
€$!
__________________

α
adriano is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-10, 06:31 PM   #10
vladuz976
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
vladuz976's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Shibuya, Tokyo
Bikes: Cannondale Bad Boy Disc, Cinelli Gazzetta custom
Posts: 326
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Messengers use the small aluminum U-locks. but those guys never leave their bikes for long.
For longer lock ups everyone seems to be using chains similar to the thickness of Kryptonite 880 chain and a pad lock.

Too bad there's no insurance for bicycles.

- I love adriano -
vladuz976 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-10, 06:45 PM   #11
waanfiride
I Only Got One Ventricle
 
waanfiride's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: New England
Bikes:
Posts: 314
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Not to sound like a sketchball, but I have another hobby, that is lockpicking (don't worry, I only use my skills for good!) but you'd be surprised how easy most locks are to open. i see people using regular padlocks + a chain to lock up bikes thinking that a big "master lock" is secure... guess again- it's not. I can open so many master locks in less than 1 second with a pick and a tension wrench... I wish I was kidding.

I use a kryptonite u-lock, not sure which model it is, but it's the middle sized length, and pretty beefy, about 5 lbs. (also makes a good weapon, had to use it to keep some dude from jacking my bike once :-\ )
waanfiride is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-10, 06:50 PM   #12
vladuz976
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
vladuz976's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Shibuya, Tokyo
Bikes: Cannondale Bad Boy Disc, Cinelli Gazzetta custom
Posts: 326
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
So, what do you recommend then?
I need a U-Lock only for when I lock my bike at work.
For the city, I just want something that I can carry around without a backpack.
What about those http://www.amazon.com/Abus-Steel-O-C...2351778&sr=8-1
abus chains with the lock attached to the ends? Does that make it any safer?
vladuz976 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-10, 06:59 PM   #13
sknoslo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Bikes:
Posts: 67
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by vladuz976 View Post
So, what do you recommend then?
I need a U-Lock only for when I lock my bike at work.
For the city, I just want something that I can carry around without a backpack.
What about those http://www.amazon.com/Abus-Steel-O-C...2351778&sr=8-1
abus chains with the lock attached to the ends? Does that make it any safer?
I wouldn't suggest that style of lock. With a can of compressed air and a hammer a thief could break that in about 10 seconds. The male side of those locks are very weak.
sknoslo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-10, 07:46 PM   #14
Crappymonkey
Guitar Master
 
Crappymonkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Parkdale, Toronto
Bikes:
Posts: 716
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Is this one any good?

Crappymonkey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-10, 08:07 PM   #15
Squirrelli
GONE~
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Bikes:
Posts: 6,757
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
^

That's the same one that I have but it is like 7 pounds, somewhat annoying to carry in my bag. I bought a Kryptonite and I'm going to save that beast for winter.
Squirrelli is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-10, 08:59 PM   #16
WoundedKnee
Antarctica awaits
 
WoundedKnee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Tucson, Zona
Bikes:
Posts: 1,965
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)


I have the Kryptolok Series 2 Mini, I don't really see how the higher end models are that much better. This one gives me a little more room to lock up on irregularly shaped/bigger things.
WoundedKnee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-10, 09:03 PM   #17
LeftinFlint
Senior Member
 
LeftinFlint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Flint, MI
Bikes: '12 C-dale HT; '89 C-dale sr300; Trek 820
Posts: 99
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I found this article by Sheldon Brown very helpful.
LeftinFlint is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-10, 10:54 PM   #18
spaceballs
Senior Member
 
spaceballs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: The Big D
Bikes: All City Nature Boy, All City Macho Man
Posts: 457
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
One thing I really like about my Kryptonite Mini Evolution is the shape of the key. I was considering getting the Kryptonite Krypto Series 2 lock just to have something a little smaller and lighter - does anyone know if the Series 2 keys are the same shape as the Evolution series keys?
spaceballs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-10, 11:35 PM   #19
Leukybear
THE STUFFED
 
Leukybear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Sandy Eggo, CA
Bikes: Sworks Venge; Rock Lobster; EAI Bareknuckle
Posts: 12,157
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 46 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by spaceballs View Post
One thing I really like about my Kryptonite Mini Evolution is the shape of the key. I was considering getting the Kryptonite Krypto Series 2 lock just to have something a little smaller and lighter - does anyone know if the Series 2 keys are the same shape as the Evolution series keys?
They are.
__________________
pɐǝɹ oʇ sᴉ sᴉɥʇ ƃuᴉʎouuɐ ʍoɥ ǝǝs

Quote:
Originally Posted by veganbikes View Post
Pound sign: Kilo TT
Leukybear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-10, 12:01 AM   #20
WoundedKnee
Antarctica awaits
 
WoundedKnee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Tucson, Zona
Bikes:
Posts: 1,965
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by spaceballs View Post
One thing I really like about my Kryptonite Mini Evolution is the shape of the key. I was considering getting the Kryptonite Krypto Series 2 lock just to have something a little smaller and lighter - does anyone know if the Series 2 keys are the same shape as the Evolution series keys?
Series 2 minis are bigger.
WoundedKnee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-10, 12:07 AM   #21
spaceballs
Senior Member
 
spaceballs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: The Big D
Bikes: All City Nature Boy, All City Macho Man
Posts: 457
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by spaceballs View Post
does anyone know if the Series 2 keys are the same shape as the Evolution series keys?
Quote:
Originally Posted by happypills View Post
They are.
Quote:
Originally Posted by WoundedKnee View Post
Series 2 minis are bigger.
Are you referring to the size of the Series 2 lock or the keys? If the latter, then which answer is correct?
spaceballs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-10, 12:08 AM   #22
WoundedKnee
Antarctica awaits
 
WoundedKnee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Tucson, Zona
Bikes:
Posts: 1,965
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
The lock itself.
WoundedKnee is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:09 PM.