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    Fuji Declaration

    It looks as though Fuji has done away with the Classic Track for 2011 and will be replacing it with this:




    It's basically a Feather (which is available in different colors this yeear but is otherwise unchanged) with a threadless stem/headset, straight fork and riser bars.

    There isn't really any point to this post. I'm just bored at the shop and figured I'd share.

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    That is aweful

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_don View Post
    That is aweful
    awesome + awful

    ?

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    Awesomely awful.

    It reminds me of this:

    Last edited by Scrodzilla; 08-24-10 at 06:54 AM.

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    Are we seeing a preview of the 2011 Windsor Hour?
    What, Me Worry? - Alfred E. Neuman

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    Most likely the 2012, after BD gets rid of all the 2009 Fuji Classic Tracks that didn't sell.
    Last edited by Scrodzilla; 08-24-10 at 08:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsh View Post
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    once you go fixed.....
    ...you generally go back in like a year.
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    fuji doin pretty good on their track pro, but this one is fail

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    gorss

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    I think they need spoke cardz
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    What, Me Worry? - Alfred E. Neuman

    Quote Originally Posted by Dcv View Post
    I'd like to think i have as much money as brains.

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    To me the subtle differences really didn't warrant having the 2 models. They could offer the classic or feather in color schemes to include those differences ? As for the difference in components, they could take the best of both models and create the single product from that. Funny though, the Feather is listed heavier at Fuji's website by 1/2 a pound, so the feather isn't the feather of the two. They priced them $ 100 apart too. I could just see the girls coming into the shop and wanting the lower priced Classic bike in the blue or pink and feeling like they got ripped off for $ 100 on the color choice.

    http://www.fujibikes.com/LifeStyle/C...sic-Track.aspx
    http://www.fujibikes.com/LifeStyle/C...s/Feather.aspx


    Researching Schwinn's SS/FG, is there really a need for the Racer vs Cutter ? Madison vs Sprint ?

    http://www.schwinnbike.com/usa/eng/P...s/Urban/Fixie/
    Last edited by fuji86; 08-24-10 at 12:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
    It's so . . . yellow.

    Well, I guess visibility won't be an issue then!
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    The banana has spoken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
    Awesomely awful.

    It reminds me of this:

    Exactly what I thought when I saw it.
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    I'm going to be spending an exorbitant amount of money on electronics for this bike.

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    Fork has no rake in it for the new model (better for the bar spin tricks ?). Maybe a new angle gets it there just the same for a wheelbase ? TT is set at at a slight incline (that might turn out to be specific for certain size models) ? Decals are similar, but cleaner with none on the seat tube and/or aft of it. It's different and has possibilities, starting to like it the longer I look at her ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JesusBananas View Post
    It's so . . . yellow.

    Well, I guess visibility won't be an issue then!
    hey, my bike is all yellow too!


    it's the color of bananas
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    nothing wrong with yellow

    t's just an ugly bike. Should've stuck to the feather and classic. Those were not bad looking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ichitz View Post
    hey, my bike is all yellow too!


    it's the color of bananas
    Ah, but yours is a nice, understated yellow. Whereas the Fuji is YELLOW. If my bananas were the color of the Fuji, I'd be concerned that they were radioactive.

    Although the image name says the bike is technically green . . .
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    "This rides nearly as nicely as your mom."

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    I thought of the Cachet as well, looking at the picture of the Cachet, though, I can firmly say I would MUCH rather have the Fuji.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuji86 View Post
    Fork has no rake in it for the new model (better for the bar spin tricks ?).
    It very clearly has rake. Looks like 42mm road rake to me.

    I actually kind of like the way this bike looks. I'm surprised flat bars/risers weren't introduced as stock options on a bike until recently. I wouldn't ride a stock bike but it's not a bad option for most people wanting a commuting bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blickblocks View Post
    It very clearly has rake. Looks like 42mm road rake to me.

    I actually kind of like the way this bike looks. I'm surprised flat bars/risers weren't introduced as stock options on a bike until recently. I wouldn't ride a stock bike but it's not a bad option for most people wanting a commuting bike.
    How can the fork have rake when it has no trail ? It's a straight fork ? Notice I said "fork" not steering tube angle ? Besides, I left an out, the fork still appears to have a slight angle that projects slightly forward of the angle of the steering tube.

    Maybe a new angle gets it there just the same for a wheelbase ?
    We are talking about the new Fuji right ? I like it too. Not sure which I prefer though ? I could live with either for the right discount in price. Not something I'm proud of, as I'm such the bike ***** that way.

    Hope these clear up any misunderstanding(s) in the intent of my first post, sorry.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rake_%28angle%29

    In bicycles, fork offset is also called fork rake.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bi...dimensions.svg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
    Awesomely awful.

    It reminds me of this:

    the last bike i saw with that many spokes also had a velvet banana seat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuji86 View Post
    How can the fork have rake when it has no trail ? It's a straight fork ?
    *slams head on desk*

    Rake is how far forward the axle is from the steering axis. Trail is how far behind the tire's contact patch is from the steering axis. Trail decreases as rake increases. Less trail is what makes a bike steer "twitchy" (which is why track bikes typically have shorter rakes, for greater trail, for more stability, to compensate for steep headtube angles).

    It doesn't matter what the actual form of the fork is, it could be curved or "straight blade" and still have the axle in the same place ("rake").

    edit: Wrote "more" instead of "less" when describing trail.
    Last edited by blickblocks; 08-24-10 at 03:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blickblocks View Post
    *slams head on desk*

    Rake is how far forward the axle is from the steering axis. Trail is how far behind the tire's contact patch is from the steering axis. Trail decreases as rake increases. More trail is what makes a bike steer "twitchy" (which is why track bikes typically have shorter rakes, for greater trail, for more stability, to compensate for steep headtube angles).

    It doesn't matter what the actual form of the fork is, it could be curved or "straight blade" and still have the axle in the same place ("rake").
    I read the wikipedia article, and I can see that all bikes will have trail regardless of fork type (unless it's a straight fork that sticking straight up, which is nonsensical).

    However, I don't think I understand rake? If rake is the perpendicular distance from the steering axis to the center of the front wheel, wouldn't straight forks have zero rake?

    I need more diagrams. Or a more clearly written Wikipedia article.
    Last edited by JesusBananas; 08-24-10 at 02:49 PM.
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    "This rides nearly as nicely as your mom."

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    Did you read either post fully ? Christ, arguing with some, I feel like I'm married with no benefits ? Why does it have to be this way ? But if we really have to do this, look at the picture link. The trail is how far behind the dropouts of the fork is, trail coincides with the steering tube angle on a road bike. I never mentioned road bike until you did, road bike are your words not mine in describing the new Fuji.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bi...dimensions.svg

    Look at the dotted lines and connect the dots ? I thought I was very clear about pointing that out from the first post ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinetiesKid View Post
    Exactly what I thought when I saw it.
    I second that

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