Should I lock up two bikes with one U-lock? OnGuard or Kryptonite?
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Touche.
I'll just tie the dog to another dog, and that dog to another and another and another and another and another...until the block is full of dogs.
I'll just tie the dog to another dog, and that dog to another and another and another and another and another...until the block is full of dogs.
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FWIW, and I've lived in NYC for a grand total of 6 days now so I know it isn't worth much, in my building there is a bike locker room and out of maybe 100 bikes in there, I've seen only ONE lock that was better than an OnGuard Pitbull lock (it was a big Krypto Fahgeddaboutdit chain). Meaning that 99 of those people seem to find ****ty U-locks and decent Krypto / OnGuard locks good enough. And yes I'm making the assumption that these people actually take their bikes and locks out of this room.
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^^^
do those bikes get used often? I have friends with ****ty cable locks and that's all they have. But they only ride on weekends to cruise around and maybe stop for a light lunch and usually the bikes are within sight.
The bikes in my building all have krypto chains or ulocks. We don't have a specific 'bike room' it's just everyone locks up in the lobby hallway and it's really hard to walk around for peeps on the 1st floor.
maybe it also depends on what type of bikes they have. My weekend friends have hand-me-down bikes or older bikes that aren't screaming 'steal me!' while ppl in my building have vintage conversions, trek road bikes, 1 dutch bike, 1 vintage schwinn tandem (yes! a tandem in brooklyn!!), 1 foldable. Anyway, i think those bikes will attract thieves much more than my friends' bikes, thus the better locks?
do those bikes get used often? I have friends with ****ty cable locks and that's all they have. But they only ride on weekends to cruise around and maybe stop for a light lunch and usually the bikes are within sight.
The bikes in my building all have krypto chains or ulocks. We don't have a specific 'bike room' it's just everyone locks up in the lobby hallway and it's really hard to walk around for peeps on the 1st floor.
maybe it also depends on what type of bikes they have. My weekend friends have hand-me-down bikes or older bikes that aren't screaming 'steal me!' while ppl in my building have vintage conversions, trek road bikes, 1 dutch bike, 1 vintage schwinn tandem (yes! a tandem in brooklyn!!), 1 foldable. Anyway, i think those bikes will attract thieves much more than my friends' bikes, thus the better locks?
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this might be worth discussing....
anyone else have RENTER'S INSURANCE?
i believe mine covers theft even outside the home, say someone stole stuff from my car, or if my bike is stolen (im not sure if it being locked is a stipulation or not....i lock it anyway obviously) state farm...
anyone else have RENTER'S INSURANCE?
i believe mine covers theft even outside the home, say someone stole stuff from my car, or if my bike is stolen (im not sure if it being locked is a stipulation or not....i lock it anyway obviously) state farm...
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The problem with insurance as protection is no honest person can ever afford to actually file a claim. Insurance is so mathematically disadvantaged against you, that it's more or less useless for anything less than a loss limit claim.
Example: homeowners, deductible $500. Thief steals your $1000 bike. Do you file a claim to get $500 of your loss covered? And now insurance claims get reported to an Equifax type service except for insurance, so it's likely not only your homeowners, but your auto and other insurance may also go up.
Now what if instead of stealing the bike, they just stomp on your Ksyriums. $400 cost to rebuild. How covered are you for that?
Example: homeowners, deductible $500. Thief steals your $1000 bike. Do you file a claim to get $500 of your loss covered? And now insurance claims get reported to an Equifax type service except for insurance, so it's likely not only your homeowners, but your auto and other insurance may also go up.
Now what if instead of stealing the bike, they just stomp on your Ksyriums. $400 cost to rebuild. How covered are you for that?
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i dont think theres a deductible needed to be payed on theft. i could be wrong. i dunno, the place im living now required it to move into and its only 120 some odd dollars a year....
and i dont think claming a theft affects your other insurance. once again i could be wrong. but so could you lol
ill be checking into it though later today.
and i dont think claming a theft affects your other insurance. once again i could be wrong. but so could you lol
ill be checking into it though later today.
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FWIW, and I've lived in NYC for a grand total of 6 days now so I know it isn't worth much, in my building there is a bike locker room and out of maybe 100 bikes in there, I've seen only ONE lock that was better than an OnGuard Pitbull lock (it was a big Krypto Fahgeddaboutdit chain). Meaning that 99 of those people seem to find ****ty U-locks and decent Krypto / OnGuard locks good enough. And yes I'm making the assumption that these people actually take their bikes and locks out of this room.
I've never used one so I won't know. It makes me nervous to lock my bike up with just a u-lock since I can't get it around both wheels, and know that using a cable to keep your front wheel through the u-lock is basically pointless (save yourself the cost of the cable, it will get cut). If I was riding around in a hand-me-down bike I'd prolly go with a single u-lock and not care. I don't know if I've just been lucky or what, but I've been locking up a pretty nice bike (Cannondale Capo, Cane Creek Track Vs, Thomson post/stem, Winwood fork etc ...) outside with a kryptonite chain for four or so years and it is still in my possession. I use the 5.5 foot kryptonite chain, shortened to a little over four feet, in a figure eight so that it goes through both, wheels, the frame and two stationary object (so they'd have to cut the chain twice to free the bike). I keep my bike in my apartment, not in a shared bike room.
The only incident I have ever had with theft is someone stole a bunch of parts off my bike (including the stock fork, which is why I have the winwood) ... they did this by unscrewing hex bolts etc ... Lesson learned: fill in all your hex bolts with aluminum foil and super glue.
I like being able to carry the chain around my waist, as well.
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I prefer heavy chains to U'locks. But I live in CO springs, I've never heard of anyone I know getting anything stolen here... But in denver I'll be rockin a https://www.onguardlock.com/?page_id=329
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i dont think theres a deductible needed to be payed on theft. i could be wrong. i dunno, the place im living now required it to move into and its only 120 some odd dollars a year....
and i dont think claming a theft affects your other insurance. once again i could be wrong. but so could you lol
ill be checking into it though later today.
and i dont think claming a theft affects your other insurance. once again i could be wrong. but so could you lol
ill be checking into it though later today.
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^^^
do those bikes get used often? I have friends with ****ty cable locks and that's all they have. But they only ride on weekends to cruise around and maybe stop for a light lunch and usually the bikes are within sight.
The bikes in my building all have krypto chains or ulocks. We don't have a specific 'bike room' it's just everyone locks up in the lobby hallway and it's really hard to walk around for peeps on the 1st floor.
maybe it also depends on what type of bikes they have. My weekend friends have hand-me-down bikes or older bikes that aren't screaming 'steal me!' while ppl in my building have vintage conversions, trek road bikes, 1 dutch bike, 1 vintage schwinn tandem (yes! a tandem in brooklyn!!), 1 foldable. Anyway, i think those bikes will attract thieves much more than my friends' bikes, thus the better locks?
do those bikes get used often? I have friends with ****ty cable locks and that's all they have. But they only ride on weekends to cruise around and maybe stop for a light lunch and usually the bikes are within sight.
The bikes in my building all have krypto chains or ulocks. We don't have a specific 'bike room' it's just everyone locks up in the lobby hallway and it's really hard to walk around for peeps on the 1st floor.
maybe it also depends on what type of bikes they have. My weekend friends have hand-me-down bikes or older bikes that aren't screaming 'steal me!' while ppl in my building have vintage conversions, trek road bikes, 1 dutch bike, 1 vintage schwinn tandem (yes! a tandem in brooklyn!!), 1 foldable. Anyway, i think those bikes will attract thieves much more than my friends' bikes, thus the better locks?
Speaking of types of bikes which people steal... what level of knowledge are most "pro" bike thieves at? And I know this is making generalizations... but I mean, are they looking for brands that they know have high value, or do they just see "shiny" and are therefore more likely to steal those?
I ask because there are plenty of off-the-shelf fixies like mine that look plenty "shiny" but in reality only run $300-500 bucks. Doesn't seem like they would be a high target if most thieves know what they are looking at. Or does the popularity of fixies in an urban environment make them higher priority targets?
The only incident I have ever had with theft is someone stole a bunch of parts off my bike (including the stock fork, which is why I have the winwood) ... they did this by unscrewing hex bolts etc ... Lesson learned: fill in all your hex bolts with aluminum foil and super glue.
I like being able to carry the chain around my waist, as well.
And as far as carrying the chain around your waist... 1. Doesn't the weight bother you? I guess whenever you ride without it you must feel like Mercury or something. 2. The chain doesn't slip down your ass or something? I guess I just assumed the chain-belt was a messenger cliche
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I'm in need of a new lock think im gonna go with the onguard chain lock.
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And as far as carrying the chain around your waist... 1. Doesn't the weight bother you? I guess whenever you ride without it you must feel like Mercury or something. 2. The chain doesn't slip down your ass or something? I guess I just assumed the chain-belt was a messenger cliche
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this might be worth discussing....
anyone else have RENTER'S INSURANCE?
i believe mine covers theft even outside the home, say someone stole stuff from my car, or if my bike is stolen (im not sure if it being locked is a stipulation or not....i lock it anyway obviously) state farm...
anyone else have RENTER'S INSURANCE?
i believe mine covers theft even outside the home, say someone stole stuff from my car, or if my bike is stolen (im not sure if it being locked is a stipulation or not....i lock it anyway obviously) state farm...
But to comment on
Now what if instead of stealing the bike, they just stomp on your Ksyriums. $400 cost to rebuild. How covered are you for that?
Makes sense? sorta?
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1. Carry around torch
2. Braze frame to bike rack wherever you want to tie up
3. ???
4. PROFIT
2. Braze frame to bike rack wherever you want to tie up
3. ???
4. PROFIT
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