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Old 09-15-10, 11:02 AM   #1
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Good rims for everything?

I need some rims that will hold up to whatever the city will throw at it. I will be using the bike for lots of commuting, riding around, and messing around in FGFS. I want some strong rims with eyelets and preferably machined sidewalls. I like...
Velocity Psychos but they are just too wide.
Sun CR18 but i hear they are weak
Mavic Open Pro but i hear they too are weak
Mavic XC 717 but I'm afraid they won't hold up

Any Help Please?

P.S. Lacing them to Profile Racing hubs and DT Champ spokes and alu nipples
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Old 09-15-10, 11:08 AM   #2
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Get them H PLUS SONs, dogg.
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Always use brass nipples...

What do you mean they are too weak? A properly laced wheel will last a long time no matter what you do to it, just get the Open Pros and call it a day.
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which ones are you referring to?
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I've always liked aeroheads and they have been plenty strong, even used them without issue for CX racing.
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I ruined an almost-new open pro front when I got clipped by some fat guy on an MTB and flew into a curb. Just about pulled one of the nipples through the rim.

I wouldn't get another one for city riding.

(By ruined, I mean it's got a little hop and a little bulging around one of the nipples, so I put it on one of my beaters and will continue riding it until it explodes).
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Why would i get brass nipples?

I read on some forums that they go out of true real quick.
i'm going to be hopping curbs and possibly do some polo as well
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which ones are you referring to?
Probably this one, since it's the only one they make with a MSW.

http://shop.hplusson.com/product/sl42
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@dsh
that's what i'm afraid of
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Probably this one, since it's the only one they make with a MSW.

http://shop.hplusson.com/product/sl42
but they don't have eyelets
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I put a beating on my Mavic CXP-22s in a pothole ridden city and they never go out of true. They're also a good looking rim! A bit on the heavy side, but not what I care about for what I'm doing.
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I've always liked aeroheads and they have been plenty strong, even used them without issue for CX racing.
Aeroheads don't have eyelets
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ALSO.......

I really want some rims with a welded joint...
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Well hello Mr. Fancypants.
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Any of those rims should be fine provided you don't insist on some silly low spoke count build.

Avoid aluminum nipples; they're just weight-weenie fluff. They cost more and strip more easily than brass. Not worth the bother. I've built hundreds of wheels over the years and only use aluminum nipples if the customer insists on it despite my warnings.

There's nothing special about a welded seam. A properly built wheel is held together by the spokes. On weight-weenie wheels we used to take the pins out of pinned rims to save weight. Once built, the wheel works fine.
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Any of those rims should be fine provided you don't insist on some silly low spoke count build.

Avoid aluminum nipples; they're just weight-weenie fluff. They cost more and strip more easily than brass. Not worth the bother.

I've built hundreds of wheels over the years and only use aluminum nipples if the customer insists on it despite my warnings.
I will be lacing it 36
I was under the impression that brass nipples stripped out more easily than aluminum?
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Aeroheads don't have eyelets
That's what nipple washers are for: http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cg...item_id=SA-NWR
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I will be lacing it 36
I was under the impression that brass nipples stripped out more easily than aluminum?
No, quite the opposite.
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Any of those rims should be fine provided you don't insist on some silly low spoke count build.

Avoid aluminum nipples; they're just weight-weenie fluff. They cost more and strip more easily than brass. Not worth the bother. I've built hundreds of wheels over the years and only use aluminum nipples if the customer insists on it despite my warnings.

There's nothing special about a welded seam. A properly built wheel is held together by the spokes. On weight-weenie wheels we used to take the pins out of pinned rims to save weight. Once built, the wheel works fine.
Listen to what this old fart says...

I won't warranty a wheel if a customer asks for aluminium nipples... they are fluff.

Build wheels with a reasonable number of spokes and good base components and you should be good to go for a long time.
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Dt swiss 1.2 is a good, strong rim.
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Whoever told you Sun CR-18s are weak was lying.
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Whoever told you Sun CR-18s are weak was lying.
+1 When I went to single speed I laced up a 36h cr-18 w/an old Schwinn hub and it's still true...that was 3 years ago. Had a 32h cr-18 on the front from a touring bike I parted out(still have the frame). They're called the 'poorman's Mavic A719' for good reason. Went to fixed w/t same fame/comps w/some off-brand called Aeromax from ebay(100.00w/tires) and the ss wheelset hangs there until my wife decides she wants to try them out.
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Always use brass nipples...

What do you mean they are too weak? A properly laced wheel will last a long time no matter what you do to it, just get the Open Pros and call it a day.
This thread is over.
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Listen to what this old fart says...

I won't warranty a wheel if a customer asks for aluminium nipples... they are fluff.

Build wheels with a reasonable number of spokes and good base components and you should be good to go for a long time.
thank you much sir
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Any of those rims should be fine provided you don't insist on some silly low spoke count build.

Avoid aluminum nipples; they're just weight-weenie fluff. They cost more and strip more easily than brass. Not worth the bother. I've built hundreds of wheels over the years and only use aluminum nipples if the customer insists on it despite my warnings.

There's nothing special about a welded seam. A properly built wheel is held together by the spokes. On weight-weenie wheels we used to take the pins out of pinned rims to save weight. Once built, the wheel works fine.

thank you very much. you have helped a lot
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