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Old 09-21-10, 11:00 AM   #1
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Ourys (or other grips) installation...

Now i have read previous threads about this,
and have heard about hairspray and compressed air.

i just have a more specific inquiry:

i shave my head so have no hairspray, and buying some just to slip ourys on seems silly.

about the compressed air....
i assume they mean the cans? like dust off? so you just stick the long straw underneith and spray? how does this help to get the ourys on?

btw im cutting the ends off of the ourys and trying to move them all the way to about an inch or two away from the stem on some bullhorns. i tried one of them with just some water and couldn't get past the bend, and now cant take it off lol
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Old 09-21-10, 11:01 AM   #2
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I breathe hard into mine a couple times, slide them on. Think "fogging a mirror". Been doing this since 1982 with no problem.
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Old 09-21-10, 11:02 AM   #3
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wd40 will work too. acts like glue. or honestly if youre not ******** you can just get em wet with water and muscle em on
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compressed air as in

You can work them on pretty easily with soapy water and a screw driver
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I don't know about these grips, but when I install hoods on my brake levers I put on some rubbing alcohol. It makes everything a lot easier.
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actually believe it or not orange citrus degreaser (finish line) works great and doesn't slip after it dries.
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well, i will try the rubbing alcohol and soapy water.
in fact i did get them all the way on with just water, but i sort of want to slip the brake cable underneath and was having a hard time pushing it thru...so i decided to take them off, slip the brake cable underneath and all the way thru previous to slipping them on the handlebars, but pulling them off is not happening (well, i got tired of trying after a while and gave up)

so i guess getting a can of dust off would be worthless....well in terms of oury grips lol
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i put ourys on by using just water. i just poked a tiny hole in the end so that water and air can get out.
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one thing that might be worth trying.. I remember someone posting this method but i've never tried it myself. Get some zip ties and line them up inside the grips and slide them onto the bars. When u get the grips onto the place u like, pull the zip ties out. Voila~
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The air in a can might work, but I can't say for sure.

I'm a big fan of compressed air and have used it exclusively (when available) for almost ten years on ourys and various other grips.

Start by shoving the grip on dry as much as you can. You probably won't get very far.

Then blow the compressed air into the area between the grip and your bars. The grip will inflate/deflate and shake around making a farting sound. Push it on to the bar while this is happening.

This is the easiest way in the world to get grips on and off. There's no waiting for stuff to dry, no mess. Easy to take on/off again.
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just mix up some soapy water. it does take a while to dry though. have you tried wd40? ive always had good success with that stuff.
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I've always used WD40. Once it sets, those grips aren't going anywhere.
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Not sure how well they will hold with the brake cable running underneath... Keep us posted on how it works.
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i use rubbing alchohol on a q-tip. then after i slip them on i poke one end of the grips with a needle to let the air out. takes a couple minutes to dry but works everytime.
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well i just tried basic soapy water and getting them on was a cinch....getting the brake cable to poke thru was definitely a beach. just used soap to lather up one end of the brake cable and pushed hard while rotating the grips back and forth to work it thru. but it worked!

did this on my lunch break so i will see how well its holding up.

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what i am doing is this: cutting hole thru closed end of oury grip, slipping on all the way to about an inch or two from the stem on nitto 021s, running barend brake levers (hence needing to get brake housing thru ourys) and taping the rest of the bars with housing underneath with cloth tape. its for this build, my "wannabe-fixedgear 1x9" build....paul thumbie next to the stem....in case anyone cares ;p



anywho i will see if the ourys stay in place once the wetness dries once i get home from work. if they are still slippery probably do what has been advised and spray some wd40 in there, i have a can with a long red straw so should be easy to stick in there and spray some.
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That setup looks wicked. I loved alt road bikes.

One (only one) of my Ourys keep slipping, and I installed them with Windex spray. I'm going to try hairspray next.
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rubbing alcohol has always worked for me, also i rode a similar set up (rb021s with oury's on top but i have champs at the ends) for years(2 sets of bars) and it was extremely comfortable. enjoy
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What happens when water or condensation get under grips that were applied with hairspray, soapy water, windex, wd-40, etc? They must slip around and take forever to dry up again, right? Especially if you're running a cable under it and giving water a clear path under the rubber!

When using compressed air, this is not an issue.

Plain water doesn't have much, if any effect under a grip. If it did, you people wouldn't have to mix it with soap to get it to help during installation. Mix a little dried soap or WD-40 with some rain water/sweat/condensation that somehow gets under the grip and you get a slippery mess.
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so besides compressed air which i do not have access to, what are some things that will make the grips stay now that ive already used soapy water to get them on?
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i use canola oil. works every time.
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so besides compressed air which i do not have access to, what are some things that will make the grips stay now that ive already used soapy water to get them on?
Seems to me the next best option would be rubbing alchohol. As far as I know it will evaporate/dry without leaving anything behind - unlike mixing soap and water or using anything similar.
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What happens when water or condensation get under grips that were applied with hairspray, soapy water, windex, wd-40, etc? They must slip around and take forever to dry up again, right?
I've never had any trouble with this and I've installed hundreds of grips using WD40.
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well, now i was able to get both ourys on without issue, even with brake cable running underneath. one i used soapy water, the other i used wd40.
i tend to listen to scrod's word since he i believe is/was a bike mechanic....

so scrod, you said using wd40, once its on it stays on? so are you saying it acts as lubrication first, then somehow acts as adhesion?

that is what i gathered when you said " I've always used WD40. Once it sets, those grips aren't going anywhere."
how long would you say it takes to set?

yesterday i sprayed a little wd40 underneath the oury i used soapy water to get on, thinking it would set and make the oury adhere to the bar, but it still is kind of slippy.
the one i used only wd40 with i just did today a little while ago during lunch break.

now that i have these guys on, i want them stuck in place without moving. if wd40 dosn't do the trick, anyone have any advise in getting them to stick solidly without slipping around, even with brake cable underneath? im thinking this stuff called spray mount. i have those thin little red straws that come with wd40 and was thinking of using them to stick in the nozzle of some spray mount so i can shove the little straw in between the oury and the handlebar and spray some of that adhesive. i dunno.
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The one that had soap in it may have to be cleaned out with hot water and allowed to dry before using WD40. I've never experimented but soap + WD40 may = always slippery.

The way it works is that the WD40 starts off as a wet solvent - allowing you to slide the grip on with ease - then is actually absorbed by the rubber and leaves the inside of the grip somewhat tacky. If you use it sparingly (just a little bit...you don't need to soak your bars and inside of your grips), it should only take 5-10 minutes to set.
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Plain water doesn't have much, if any effect under a grip. If it did, you people wouldn't have to mix it with soap to get it to help during installation. Mix a little dried soap or WD-40 with some rain water/sweat/condensation that somehow gets under the grip and you get a slippery mess.
I use plain water to install grips... Haven't had any issues with it, and it's really quite easy. But, yes, I do poke holes in the end of the grip to relieve pressure caused from both ends of the bar being sealed creating compression from the reduction of volume once the grip is all the way on. Water may take longer to set, but it's hassle free, with no mess. Hair spray is the way to go if you want it to stick forever. Just be careful, it can be difficult to remove in the future if done correctly. And as far as it not staying.. Mountain bikers use this method all the time.. As well as motorcyclists (the grip not slipping is kind of important).
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