Looking to hear the input of knowledgeable members.
Im looking at different cranks for my newest build and some of the prices are ridiculous. (I work at a shop and Im talking about cost prices, not msrp)
Why are some of these cranks so damn expensive? The campy and dura ace are the main high end ones I was looking at. (miche is priced decent, and I think there is a surgino that is up there too)
So here is the question, Why is the dura ace crankset, which doesnt even include a chainring, so freaking expensive? Do people actually pay msrp for these things? The campy to me looks nicer and has the chainring included.
To be honest I will probably go with the miche advanced, but I still want to hear opinions on why there is such a big price gap and if it would be worth the extra money to go with the campy record or something of that caliber.
Higher end track cranks are made much stiffer than the average crank, which takes much more time(and money) in design and construction. They are also designed with tighter tolerances which takes more time and money. High end cranks have as round of bolt circles as can possibly get, compared to lower end once, which also take a lot more time and money.
Lots of smallish things combine to make prices of really nice things higher than low end ones. Just like everything else.
Are you racing at a cat 3 or better in a local velodrome? Do you weigh more than 170 pounds?
Anyone who can answer yes to either of these should really think about the cranks they buy. If "no" to EITHER of these questions, just buy the cranks that look the best, weigh the least and that you can afford. Obsessing over minutiae when you don't need to robs you of critical saddle time.
GT35 - Stick the miche cranks on that bike and have at it or use the SRAM S300 for period correct strength to weight to look to cost to ease of use ratio.
A great many things go into the price of high end components and besides the very close tolerances you are often looking at a niche product that does not benefit from the economy of scale more commonly used components do.
"Light, strong, and cheap... pick two" really applies here.
Look at most new high end bikes and most will be running second tier components as the price of the top tier bits are often double of those and really offer diminished returns when you consider how much more you have to spend to get less and less increases in performance and save a few grams of weight.
had the suare taper dura ace and the newer campy pistas and only the primatos not the advanced from miche.
what i did not liked about the miches was that the threads for the chairing bolts are direct cut in the spider -> were afraid of stripping them. and the side facing the frame was not as well polished as the campys or dura ace. regarding the stiffness i did not feel a difference but also had them all on already flexy steel frames.
what i don't understand is that sugino 75 go for so mutch more than dura ace on ebay...
got all my cranks used, in europe used campy pistas are cheaper than sugino messengers so the choice for me was easy...
I suspect that a lot of it is that they say "Campagnolo" and "Dura Ace" on them. How minute a tolerance difference can you actually detect? I think that a Sora crank probably has 98% of the functionality of the nicest crank ever made, and the 3% of cyclists that are actually physically able to tax the cranks enough to tell the difference (and care) might require something a little nicer. The top of the line I think is mainly about impressing your online friends.
Don't get me wrong- I like nice parts too, but I think if people were really interested in functionality alone, the parts market would be a very different place.
I don't think it speaks well for Pake that they misspelled "knickknacks" on their banner. Google that ****!
Can I have this loser loose his ability to respond to my threads? Just because you have 4k posts within your 2 years of being on this forum doesnt mean anything. You are probably are a loser in reality, and spend more time on this forum than on a bike. All of your posts are an attempt to be "funny" and never seem to help the OP.
On a better note, Thanks for the replys. I weigh in at 180. If It ends up the cranks do not hold up I can always "upgrade" but for now i feel the campy and DA are going to make me feel like I paid extra for a logo. For now it will be the Miche.
Im curious to see what the 2011 is going to look like in person. I know they changed a few things(replaceable dropout inserts, possible problems with spider clearance). But these cranks are not going on my current bike.
Can I have this loser loose his ability to respond to my threads? Just because you have 4k posts within your 2 years of being on this forum doesnt mean anything. You are probably are a loser in reality, and spend more time on this forum than on a bike.
IMHO, track specific cranks cannot be stiffer than the new Dura Ace 7900 / Ultegra 6700 cranksets can they? Hollow, stiffened crank arms and outer ring.
If I were in a no-holds barred build, I would much rather have a top tier road crank over a track crank. Even with a ramped and pinned outer ring, it would be lighter and stiffer than track cranks. Sure the chainline may be funky.... but still.
To answer your question, nobody buys track cranks (comparitively speaking), so they probably cost more to hold inventory at the warehouse than it likely pulls in for profit.