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Old 10-05-10, 03:23 PM   #1
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let's talk about legs

I've lived in Portland for just over a year now. Last winter was brutal. My jeans were always soaking wet and as you know, wet jeans are probably the worst thing ever.

This winter I'll be riding every day/night delivering food for work so I wanna make sure I am 100% legit.

I was thinking about just getting leg warmers (they look like spandex and go up about mid thigh) and just wearing cut off's over em. Anyone else ever do this?

All I have together so far is an american apparel thermal (****ty quality for sure), a hoodie and a northface venture shell. Any recommendations for staying warm/comfortable without looking like a yellow jacket/road warrior?

I had the Chrome Cobra for a bit but honestly, it wasn't all it was cracked up to be. It's a sweet hoodie but for $160.. I ended up reselling it for $120 to put money towards my bike.

What are you guys in the NW doing?
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I don't live in the NW, but I bought some waterproof overpants from here: http://www.motorcyclecloseouts.com/ . I don't see how leg warmers are really much better than jeans if it's raining- they still will just serve to hold water against your skin. I wear jeans or whatever, and just take off the wet shell when I get where I'm going. One nice thing about the motorcycle gear too is that it's got a heat resistant part on the inside of your calf for hot exhaust pipes that serves to make the material too stiff to get caught on your chainring. The gear I bought was about 1/10 of the money you're talking, $10-15. They have gloves and such too.
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Old 10-05-10, 04:20 PM   #3
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Layering is your friend, like **** load of them.

It is not that cold here in Vancouver yet.
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I think it's ridiculous to buy winter motorcycle gear when there exists winter cycling gear that's just fine. Motorcycle gear isn't designed for your legs to constantly move up and down.

Legwarmers are a good idea. Don't be afraid to buy full-on tights or pants. If you are working, then it is essential that you get proper equipment. You will appreciate having quality outerwear.

Have your pick: http://www.performancebike.com/bikes...egoryId=400070
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cycling leg armers are not the same as AA thermal. I can wear just my leg warmers w/o anything over it at about freezing point, no problem. Pearl makes some cheap ones. Saw some cheap ones on Nashbar but i never touched them so i don't know.
If it rains, throw some waterproof pants on top. Booties are also great in rain/snow.
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Swrve stuff is so ridiculously overpriced for what it is. Pass.
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cycling leg armers are not the same as AA thermal. I can wear just my leg warmers w/o anything over it at about freezing point, no problem. Pearl makes some cheap ones. Saw some cheap ones on Nashbar but i never touched them so i don't know.
If it rains, throw some waterproof pants on top. Booties are also great in rain/snow.
I live in Portland so by the end of the month, it will rain just about 7 days a week until Feb.
I've heard that when leg warmers get wet, the cold water actually heats up, keeping your legs warm.

I've also heard that rain pants slow you down like a muh'fugga. I am gonna swoop up some leg warmers for sure and tights if I can end up affording them.

Also, http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...Mask_Black.jpg
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Do you have full fenders on your bike?
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By the way, I ride in the winter and the form-fitting stuff feels much better than loose flappy regular winter clothing.

Also, try to get some sort of wicking shirts to wear as a base layer to wick the sweat away from your skin. You can find lots of options at a local sporting goods store. Cotton is about the worst thing to wear.

Balaclavas are nice to keep the ears warm and you can hear traffic through them. But, you can't enter some buildings with them. I rolled up on 2 cops and scared the crap out of them one day hahaha.
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Balaclavas are badass. Thanks for the info!

And only a rear fender. No clearance for a front fender.
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look into some gore-tex socks!
http://www.gore-tex.com/remote/Satel...SessionWrapper
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Old 10-05-10, 06:15 PM   #13
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anything waterproof is generally a bad idea, as you'll just get wet from your own sweat. Even gortex sucks, especially if you're moving all day.


what i usually do is wear all synthetics, maybe mesh or nylon shorts with knee high baseball socks. tights would probably make you look considerably less goofy though.
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Wool blend long underwear and socks ftw.
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I thought it was cheaper than anything else.

And also, says the guy with Cinelli leather tape..

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Balaclavas are badass. Thanks for the info!

And only a rear fender. No clearance for a front fender.
This makes me think you should look into a proper winter/foul weather bike rather than trying to force your clothes into picking up the slack.
Especially if you're working/commuting on your bike—you need the right tool for the job.


ETA: FWIW, go with wool. Get wool everything.
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swrve stuff is not cheap, but it's not overpriced. i love my winter weight knickers, but i got them half off oops bin seconds.
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Wool is great stuff.

A front fender too. The best clothing in the world won't prevent water from splashing your body. Get a different bike with full fenders if you're serious about staying warm and dry.
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ETA: FWIW, go with wool. Get wool everything.
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speaking of wool. Also look into hiking base layers. A lot of them are very breathable, which keeps u dry, while keeping u warm.
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fun fact-wool, while warm when wet, dries slower than synthetics once saturated.

i find that most wool baselayers are kinda fragile and expensive. they don't hold BO like synthetic, and they breathe much better, but if you have a bag on your back, wool has been known to wear through pretty easily. if you're gonna buy wool, look for expedition weight stuff.

as long as OP stays away from cotton anything, he'll be fine.
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There is a great info-graphic on page 52 & 53 of the October 2010 Bicycling magazine that addresses cold weather attire for 55, 50, 45, and 40 degree weather.
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My preference of rain cycling is a synthetic long underwear (polypro type thing that wicks away sweat and other moisture) with some wool pants over top. For the wool pants, go to a second hand store and find a cheep used pair of high quality wool dress pants. They are not too thick, yet warm.
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I rode in Portland last winter and was there for the little skiff of snow at Christmas... anyone who has not spent time in the PNW riding probably has no idea how craptastic non stop rain and cold can be.

Fenders are a no brainer as they will keep you, your bike, and what you are carrying much cleaner.

Proper rain gear will make riding so much more enjoyable and high vis clothing will help keep you from becoming road kill as will some decent lighting.

I bought a Columbia jacket there last October and love it as it is waterproof, breathes well, and can be be separated into it's shell and fleece liner... go to their outlet and you can probably score a much better deal than you would at any local store.

Rain pants and shoe covers will make things much nicer... I worked as a messenger and staying dry and warm was more important than looking trendy and freezing your ass off.

Wool is also your friend... cotton is the work of satan.
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Swrve stuff is so ridiculously overpriced for what it is. Pass.
My $40 hoodie is awesome. The jeans I bought cost the same as other jeans that fit me. $40 jeans do not fit my legs, sorry. Swrve stuff is ok. I bet those trousers linked do the same as any other $125 pair of water resistant pants that you can walk right into the office with.

I was out in the castelli leg warmers, booties and bib tonight. Had a trasparente jersey on and base layer tucked in the back just in case it got chilly. 12c and medium humidity. That's about 55f for you Yanks. I was happy with the heat generation and the wicking. If it started to rain I would throw something over top that setup. Most likely something from MEC or whatever. Something cheap.
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Patagonia stuff is real nice. But expensive. You get what you pay for.
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