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Old 10-27-10, 04:13 PM   #1
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Building a SS Cyclocross ride...

I'm thinking about it... my question is: if i were to get a frame, would i be better off getting a single speed road frame, a single speed mtb frame, or really hold out and get a specifically single speed cyclocross frame? Money is a bit of an issue, but i feel like it would be easiest to find an affordable road frame before mtb and then cross. advice me up, please.
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Old 10-27-10, 04:25 PM   #2
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Are you racing or just riding CX for fun?

If you are racing, then I would suggest:
- When in doubt, do what people who have been doing this longer than you and who are faster than you are doing.
- If you can afford it, buy a bike that is "faster than you are now" and grow into it.
- Jump in feet first and go for it. Because if you go half-way and realize, "Man, I really like this and I'm sort of fast." you will wish you'd saved $200 more for the faster rig.
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Most road frames and caliper brakes lack the clearance for cyclocross tires. Moreover, cyclocross frames have different geometry than road frames....the angles are a bit slacker, the wheelbase is longer and the headtube a bit taller. A mountain bike frame is just going to be way off. If you want a cyclocross bike, get a cyclocross frame, otherwise its not going to be a cyclocross bike. Cross frames aren't really any more expensive than road frames anyway.
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Tire clearance.
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you need to look at Bikesdirect...
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Get a frame designed for what you are doing. You will enjoy it more and have less issues in the long run.
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Fantom Cross Uno... obviously?
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I'm looking at just doing it for fun. I recently moved into an area with some nice dirt trails (and by nice i mean they're nice for running, too tame for my mtb) literally across the street. I have no intention on racing any time soon, and if i were to do so, i could always make the effort to buy a better bike, but that's getting ahead of myself...
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Fantom Cross Uno... obviously?
WHOA! Thats some good stuff. I'm new to that site. And that bike. Very promising, and that fantom cross uno is super-affordable. wowee. maybe if i can find a '10, i wont even feel bad about skimping out on x-mas presents... cheers to all of you.
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it's not a bad bike, but it is kind of a one trick pony.

the surly crosscheck isn't as affordable but it's way more versatile and about as heavy.

then there's options like the nashbar X frame, which has vertical dropouts but is a freaking awesome frame. that's what i have. you can easily run a singlator on a frame like the nashbar X, and not need to buy derailleurs or anything.

this is basically just because i think the fantom cross uno is ugly, heavy, and cheap.


take this all with a grain of salt, because if i didn't have any bikes and i wanted a bike, i would either have the all city nature boy or no bike at all. that's how much i love the nature boy.

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Surf City this weekend. SS go at 1130
You can check out some there

http://www.cyclo-x.com/schedule.html
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Old 10-28-10, 08:23 AM   #14
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just to be clear, any frame + tensioner = SS fun.

i would buy a dedicated cyclocross frame. having run cx on several non-cross frames, i finally got one and haven't looked back. the canti brakes and tire clearance are a must, but the higher bottom bracket of a cx frame is a huge help. before i was catching my bash on things all the time. a good, used cross frame can be generally had for much less than a good, used SS specific cross frame, just based on the numbers out there.
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Surf City this weekend. SS go at 1130
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DUDE! thank you so much for enlightening me! I'll be definitely be there. Cheers!
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WHOA! Thats some good stuff. I'm new to that site. And that bike. Very promising, and that fantom cross uno is super-affordable. wowee. maybe if i can find a '10, i wont even feel bad about skimping out on x-mas presents... cheers to all of you.
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because if i didn't have any bikes and i wanted a bike, i would either have the all city nature boy or no bike at all. that's how much i love the nature boy.
I have a friend who just got one and raced it at cross crusades last weekend and loves it... I have to say that it is one sweet sweet sweet ride...
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I had a Cross Uno for a while and it was a fun bike. Heavy but always felt stable beneath me. There were a few quirks like the 120mm spaced rear and the under the top tube cable routing. If BD would make this out of Alu and fix those two issues I would buy another tomorrow.
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All-City Nature Boy
All-City Nature Boy
All-City Nature Boy
All-City Nature Boy
All-City Nature Boy
All-City Nature Boy

it's the answer.
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All-City Nature Boy
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All-City Nature Boy

it's the answer.
What this guy said!!!!!

Save your money and get the Nature boy.
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All-City Nature Boy
All-City Nature Boy
All-City Nature Boy
All-City Nature Boy
All-City Nature Boy
All-City Nature Boy

it's the answer.
Wow...how have I not heard about this bike until now? Looks like an awesome frame. Time to do more research!
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I had a Cross Uno for a while and it was a fun bike. Heavy but always felt stable beneath me. There were a few quirks like the 120mm spaced rear and the under the top tube cable routing. If BD would make this out of Alu and fix those two issues I would buy another tomorrow.
I believe the cable routing is now above the top tube, even though the photos on their site don't reflect the change. And the spacing seems easy enough to resolve. What I don't get is the geometry -- isn't it a bit steep for a cross bike?
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