zigmin

njs everything.....but frame. You can be the first.

Oramas

I know that i picked up the frame cheaply, and that most cyclists find the pista to be a "cheap" bike in general but I actually like the frame and was looking to buy some nice parts. My original thoughts were to put some black deep v wheels on either king or wood hubs. outside of that I haven't researched enough on the other components that it will take to get this finished. (thus my initial post) My budget (had figured around 1k-1,500) will depend on the parts as I have time to save up for the various things I will need but I had imagined spending around $500-700 on a wheelset, $100-175 on a crankset, $100-ish on saddle and post just for reference sake.

gt35built

That example of what you do in florida should clearly sway you away from dumping a ton of money into a ****ty foundation.

Thats not to say a pista is a ****ty frame, its just some of the components you are asking about belong on a pista concept.

1k into components isnt that much if your paying retail plus tax. It would be pretty goofy to invest so much into that frameset. hell a guy on ebay has been selling full build kits from fuji track pros for 500 shipped.

100 on a nice fork
250 on wheels
50 on stem/bars
50 on seat/post
100 pedals chain cog tires

those very rough estimates bring you to 650. Dont just spend 1000 dollars because you have it since much of the high end stuff just wont be needed for what you use the bike for.

Oramas

i've always wanted to be first.

gt35built

your a complete idiot if you drop 700 on a ****ing wheelset for a pista. come on now. get your self a damn deep v/formula combo for 175 new.

Oramas

perhaps my desire for a pista concept was overshadowed by the super cheap price on this pista frame, I couldn't resist buying it to build up. I just want to make this pista as nice as can be without going crazy.

Squirrelli

That's pretty heavy...

Road front hubs will be much lighter and cheaper than a front Phil.

gt35built

If you really have $1500, and are really willing to spend it all on a bike, and your not just fantasizing , I'm going to tell you what you don't want to hear, but its for the better.

Oramas

that price was based on deep v wheelset tied to Phill Wood hubs. I'd gladly pay less than $700 for that.

gt35built

I understand that, but I am comparing them to your average track hubs. Obviously a front road hub is going to be lighter than a high flange phil track.

This guy is looking for street cred. chrome pista+ phil wood or paul + high end everything component wise

I'm sure the last thing he is going to do is run a QR road hub to save 100 grams. And I dont see anything about "cheap" coming from this dude.

Oramas

i hear what you are saying, although i wasn't planning to spend $1500 at once, more like a part each week for a few months. It is more about building up a bike on my own than buying one off the shelf. I suppose that is the appeal to this particular frame.

Squirrelli

Fork - Nashbar, Performance, BikeIsland carbon fork for ~$100
Stem - Velo Orange
Headset - Velo Orange
Seatpost - Nitto Jaguar, Thomson, Velo Orange
Wheelset - I'd build your own, pick your own hubs, spokes and rims and let some one lace it up for you.
Tires - GP 4000S, GP 4000, Michelin Pro3 Race, Vittoria Evo Corsa cx etc etc

The rest of the components are rather your own taste.

gt35built

By the time your able to ride it you will have spent 1500 regardless. Go somewhere else with that type of money.

IMO, you can get that thing on the road with around 500 worth of parts. Built by yourself. Able to ride and enjoy much sooner than some one part a week bs

Squirrelli

White Industry road front hub + White Industry rear track hub would suit your budget quite nicely.

You should just spend your money on bags, like trucks-full of them.

gt35built

fyi 1500- 699 for a fuji track pro complete from city grounds= 800. still way more than you will need to invest.

rethink your options, please.

renton20

Do it dude. **** em. I've got some pedals that would go great with that bike. Mms custom Nuevo with toshis and ale clips. ****** as **** but I'm using clipless now. Do campy pista cranks, king threaded headset with a vintage Italian track fork, you need phil high flange track hubs laced to CD(blacked out) open pro rims. eBay a NOS original turbo and a vintage fluted campy seatpost. Eai cog with Izumi chain. Cinelli or 3T stem with deda track drops.

Squirrelli

^ EAI Superstar cog right?

renton20

Exactly. Anything else would be a waste. You can't trust stuff that's not njs

ichitz

ha!
i believe formula rear hubs weigh in at 270g. U can get a road american classic front for 58g
58/270 (328 total) as compared to
225/400 (625) total phils

thanks for sharing ur experience

don't get me wrong. Phils are great hubs. I'm merely stating the fact that they are on the heavier end and if the OP cares about weigh like he said he does, it's prob not the best solution for him.

Oramas

ok, thanks for all the comments (smart A** & otherwise) and I hate to admit it (buy a diff bike) but I think will just buy a Super Pista and put some Deep V's on it. I was trying to avoid spending a large chunk of change all at once but I suppose it IS the better option. FYI this winter build project was going to be my ride only, non-locked bike as I have a Bianchi I ride around on and lock up when needed. I guess I just got hooked on a cheap price on a Bianchi and thought "I should build this up".

gruppo

The difference and potential benefit is the more traditional Phil rear hub is made to accept SS freewheels or track cogs; and the King hub has a narrow cassette, spacers, and a lockring - this allows you to dial in the chain line. And the cassette, if you're so inclined, allows you to run a 1x2 or 1x3 (Though that might require some quick links if you don't have long dropouts). Either way, don't worry about the weight because it's in the center of the wheel and won't affect performance (In fact the superior bearings likely offset the small extra weight). Again, good luck.

xavier853

or you could build up the bike by going to the lbs/bike co-op and finding cheaper parts.

Ignore all these infidels!!!!!! Build her up and ride the winter out!