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    My Winter Project

    So I picked up this frame for $150 and plan on building it up this winter, thought I would see how my fellow cyclists would part this up for maximum speed and lightness. And no, I'm not going to sell this and get a "better" bike


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    Maximum speed and lightness lol

    gear it 52/13

    use carbon fiber wheels, carbon crank, carbon post, carbon stem, carbon bars. and some ultralight tubes.

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    Record pista crank.
    Cane Creek 110 TR headset
    Nitto lugged 853 stem.
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    because physics has more street cred than tarckstars.

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    Paint it red.

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    anadoized pink and purple wheels, Origin 8 gold crankset. Use lots of colors and matchy matchy. Tarck it out dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gt35built View Post
    Maximum speed and lightness lol

    gear it 52/13

    use carbon fiber wheels, carbon crank, carbon post, carbon stem, carbon bars. and some ultralight tubes.
    wow I hadn't thought of that, thank you capt obvious but aside from those ambiguous items any specific recommendations? I know its just a pista frame nothing special but wanted to set it up as nice as can be. I had wanted to carbon fiber it out and just have the chrome frame stand out.

    Quote Originally Posted by ianjk View Post
    Record pista crank.
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    thanks for being the sane one....

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    u mean u have absolutely no opinions/personal pref of ur build and u need other people to give u ideas for ur bike?
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    ...you generally go back in like a year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ichitz View Post
    u mean u have absolutely no opinions/personal pref of ur build and u need other people to give u ideas for ur bike?
    as i mentioned i want to just black it out with mostly carbon fiber parts and let the chrome frame stand out. But it is nice to become aware of other components that I may not know of, not that I need other peoples ideas. For instance, I didn't know about the 808 wheels, way out of my price range but nice to have learned about them.

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    sell it and get a better bike.

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    you don't need CF to black out. Actually, CF is not really black and if having the chrome frame standing out is what you want then i'ld go with black alum parts rather than CF. And unless u're racing, CF is a very expensive component to have, more brittle IMO, and a thief magnet if u plan on locking up in Brooklyn. If u're racing, get a better frame.
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    ...you generally go back in like a year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oramas View Post
    wow I hadn't thought of that, thank you capt obvious but aside from those ambiguous items any specific recommendations? I know its just a pista frame nothing special but wanted to set it up as nice as can be. I had wanted to carbon fiber it out and just have the chrome frame stand out.



    thanks for being the sane one....
    None of the components listed, while flashy, will improve performance. You can find very good stuff that's within a few onces of the weight of those listed and they will look cool and work just fine (Sugino crankset, Cane Creek S-3 headset - and the Ritchey steel HS is almost as light for $20 - Salsa steel stem, any number of 200 gm seatposts - American Classic is a great choice - and a classic Flite saddle). As for performance, put the savings in to the wheels/tires: get King, Phil Wood, or White Industries hubs laced to any number of 400 gm rims (Mavic Open Pro, IRD, Velocity, DT-Swiss, Stan's, etc.) using a 3 or 4 x pattern and 14-17-15 spokes with brass nipples. And don't forget to use high quality tires/tubes. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vw addict View Post
    sell it and get a better bike.
    original, i suppose every forum has its trolls

    Quote Originally Posted by ichitz View Post
    you don't need CF to black out. Actually, CF is not really black and if having the chrome frame standing out is what you want then i'ld go with black alum parts rather than CF. And unless u're racing, CF is a very expensive component to have, more brittle IMO, and a thief magnet if u plan on locking up in Brooklyn. If u're racing, get a better frame.
    good point, only wanted CF for the weight not necessarily for the color. Not racing just wanted a nice light bike to ride around (not a bike to lock up)

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    i would do what gruppo said. On an additional note, CF isn't necessarily light. U can build an non-carbon wheel under 1500g for under $400, which is lighter than a lot of expensive wheelsets. Use road front hubs and low flanges
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    ...you generally go back in like a year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gruppo View Post
    None of the components listed, while flashy, will improve performance. You can find very good stuff that's within a few onces of the weight of those listed and they will look cool and work just fine (Sugino crankset, Cane Creek S-3 headset - and the Ritchey steel HS is almost as light for $20 - Salsa steel stem, any number of 200 gm seatposts - American Classic is a great choice - and a classic Flite saddle). As for performance, put the savings in to the wheels/tires: get King, Phil Wood, or White Industries hubs laced to any number of 400 gm rims (Mavic Open Pro, IRD, Velocity, DT-Swiss, Stan's, etc.) using a 3 or 4 x pattern and 14-17-15 spokes with brass nipples. And don't forget to use high quality tires/tubes. Good luck.
    thanks for the input, this is what i was looking for. Don't need flashy, was looking for good build quality and light weight. Without starting a flame war or being called out for my inexperience, what is the difference / benefit between Phil Wood & Kris King hubs?

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    They are very similar in design and when it comes down to it the only thing to be noticed will be the cosmetics. Phil wood has more options for track hubs. I love my low flanges, Don't care for the look of the high.

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    OP - i dont think anyone is taking you seriously because you picked up a frame cheap and are asking about some pretty high end parts. pretty much any carbon fiber part you buy is going to cost at least twice as much as your frame at this point.

    if you want serious replys, start by telling us the budget you would like to maintain, thats a good place to start from.

    for your information, i was just in the market myslef, you'll be hard pressed to find a phil wood built wheelset for much under $500...

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    open pros laced to dura ace, from velomine.

    miche components to finishes her off.
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    ...why use a bianchi pista for a winter bike first of all...

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    Dual Aerospokes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickpoiron View Post
    Dual Aerospokes.
    +1 xD

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    if u're gonna be a weight weenie, phils are not light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by klaw091 View Post
    ...why use a bianchi pista for a winter bike first of all...
    I was confused by this as well, but I think what he means is

    "A project bike to work on over the course of the winter"
    rather than
    "A project bike to build in preparation for the winter"

    By the way, it is kinda silly to put $2000 worth of components on a $200 frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ichitz View Post
    if u're gonna be a weight weenie, phils are not light.
    ^ speaking without experience^

    Not that it matters to anyone in this thread, but here is the F/R weight in grams for a pair of formulas followed by a pair of high flange phils.

    275/330
    225/400

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsh View Post
    I was confused by this as well, but I think what he means is

    "A project bike to work on over the course of the winter"
    rather than
    "A project bike to build in preparation for the winter"

    By the way, it is kinda silly to put $2000 worth of components on a $200 frame.
    yes, a bike to be built in the winter. as for the $200 frame and $2000 worth of components, I'm from FL where we put thousands of dollars worth of components into frames that are worthless all the time like this ride -----> donk2..jpg

    btw - if i only intend to put in 1K worth of components on my frame is that ok? What is the proper component value for frame value ratio? Don't want to be caught out on the road violating some unspoken rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oramas View Post
    yes, a bike to be built in the winter. as for the $200 frame and $2000 worth of components, I'm from FL where we put thousands of dollars worth of components into frames that are worthless all the time like this ride -----> donk2..jpg

    btw - if i only intend to put in 1K worth of components on my frame is that ok? What is the proper component value for frame value ratio? Don't want to be caught out on the road violating some unspoken rule.
    did you read my post suggestion? you should define your budget, and you'll get more serious replies. saying you want a light, high performance bike is very relative. you can build that bike for anywhere from $300 to $5000, and anywhere in between. how can we help if we dont know what you want to spend?

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