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    Fixed Rear Hubs: What makes one better than the other?

    Just curious what makes a rear hub better than the other aside from the flange ...

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    Mostly just the process and the quality tolerances.

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    the colors. some make you go faster.

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    better threads, cleaner finish, bolts.

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    the bearings speak alot~ like how smooth they spin i.e. ball vs sealed, sealed vs phil-ed ;D (but then again some can be swapped out)

    also the hardware such as the spacers and the locknut of the hubs are important because ones like formula are prone to cracking due to excessive tightening



    (replacement here: http://mikesbikes.com/product/surly-...1032-qc129.htm)
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    Lateral stiffness and vertical compliance are very important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muckymucky View Post
    the bearings speak alot~ like how smooth they spin i.e. ball vs sealed, sealed vs phil-ed ;D (but then again some can be swapped out)
    Phil Wood doesn't necessary make bearings, they are Phil-spec'd.

    They get their bearings for NSK, which is a bearing company in Japan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
    Awesome!
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    dude...you can't "no ****" something THAT ****. That's like saying "sometimes I just like to make out with dudes...no ****"

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    Quote Originally Posted by xavier853 View Post
    the colors. some make you go faster.
    i dont like the colors
    riding bike is a lifestylehttp://www.free123.net/sig/27/smile.gif

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    Most expensive hubs are a mix of:
    - Reliable
    - Light weight
    - Low rolling resistance
    - Easy to maintain
    - Strong
    - Aesthetically pleasing

    The more of those features you combine, the more valuable a hub is.

    Then for the vintage nerds, add value for:
    - Rarity
    - Period Correctness


    Actually, all of this goes for bike parts in general. Except for "low rolling resistance". Change that to "doing the task well that it was designed to do".

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    money tint ftw

    the rotory telephone gold phils are expensive because they're ****ing crazy.

    nowadays if you're spending more than a formula hub, you may as well get a phil because you aren't getting anything of higher quality for your dollar. unless you like the dollar.

    i do like the all city new sheriffs. if i had the money to teach myself to build wheels that is what i'd do it with barring phils.

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    Street cred makes a hub worth more.
    Quote Originally Posted by PedallingATX View Post
    dude...you can't "no ****" something THAT ****. That's like saying "sometimes I just like to make out with dudes...no ****"

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    Hub clarification:
    Rather than start a new hub thread (there are about infinity+1 already) i figured id tack this noobish question onto this thread:

    everyone says "formula" hubs are the best bang for the buck (not including top-shelf, cash-money hubs). Poking around online, all of the mid-range and up wheel-sellers stock wheels with formula hubs, some are branded ones: origin8 formula, bianchi formula, etc. others just specify "formula".

    is there are difference? are these just co-branded? is formula used as a standard? is any formula hub just as good as the other?
    clarifying this would be really helpful in my quest for a lightish, not obnoxious, smooth rolling, but not-too-pricey wheel. Im looking for something just a bit better than decent, the wheelset that is as good as you can get before popping up into the $300 (on sale, deal of the year) range.

    all right, thats it. hit me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cc700 View Post
    money tint ftw

    the rotory telephone gold phils are expensive because they're ****ing crazy.

    nowadays if you're spending more than a formula hub, you may as well get a phil because you aren't getting anything of higher quality for your dollar. unless you like the dollar.

    i do like the all city new sheriffs. if i had the money to teach myself to build wheels that is what i'd do it with barring phils.

    Do you have a picture?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge_Walker View Post
    Do you have a picture?
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    there is a difference though because that extra weight will directly correlate with how many chicks huff your dongus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muckymucky View Post
    the hardware such as the spacers and the locknut of the hubs are important because ones like formula are prone to cracking due to excessive tightening
    the only time I have had a formula lock nut crack is when my track ends were misaligned
    I am dyslexic so bear with my posts.... [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    Quote Originally Posted by vw addict View Post
    Wait aren't these those tsunami relief ones?

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    I've stripped 2 formula hubs and since then have been spending more money on "quality hubs" and have never had further issues. I've had dura ace hubs since then and have recently switched over to a rear chub hub since I found an awesome deal on craigslist.

    If you have the extra cash flow


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    no those are special gold ones...only 10 madeee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retem View Post
    the only time I have had a formula lock nut crack is when my track ends were misaligned
    maybe it had to do with not cleaning or lubing you drivetrain for 5 years...
    Quote Originally Posted by cc700 View Post
    there is a difference though because that extra weight will directly correlate with how many chicks huff your dongus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docboyd View Post
    no those are special gold ones...only 10 madeee
    They offered anodizing for the tsunami relief hubs... I'll see if they offer gold as they didn't start shipping them yet.


    As much as I like the chub hive, it always seems like a novelty for me for some reason... maybe it's the name.... "chub"...

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    Bolt-on hubs and the Miche system offers alternatives for our market.

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    Those limited edition gold Phil hubs are gold plated, not anodized.

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