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    FUJI Classic Track

    noticed they're like 479, only like 80 bucks more than a kilo tt. these any good? the chainring looks flimsy. hows the frame?

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    Not comparable to the Kilo TT. Basically, same bike as Windsor Hour, which sells for $280.
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    Also the same as a Motobecane Track, more or less, which is also $280.
    Last edited by yummygooey; 11-15-10 at 10:35 AM.

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    As a lifestyle bike that you arent racing IMHO the fuji is better. I have tried out a friend's kilo tt and another friend's the hour. The kilo tt was harder for me to make turns in because the pedals hit the ground easily. If you re into a more track geometry i heard its better.
    The hour on the other hand, felt a lot flimsier than my feather, which has the same frame as a classic track...
    But for 500 I think the classic track is a bit overpriced. look for a sale...

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    Get the Kilo TT unless you want to pay for the Fuji brand name... its the same bike minus the brand name for which you're paying extra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeatherLight View Post
    As a lifestyle bike that you arent racing IMHO the fuji is better. I have tried out a friend's kilo tt and another friend's the hour. The kilo tt was harder for me to make turns in because the pedals hit the ground easily. If you re into a more track geometry i heard its better.
    The hour on the other hand, felt a lot flimsier than my feather, which has the same frame as a classic track...
    But for 500 I think the classic track is a bit overpriced. look for a sale...
    What planet are you from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeatherLight View Post
    As a lifestyle bike that you arent racing IMHO the fuji is better. I have tried out a friend's kilo tt and another friend's the hour. The kilo tt was harder for me to make turns in because the pedals hit the ground easily. If you re into a more track geometry i heard its better.
    The hour on the other hand, felt a lot flimsier than my feather, which has the same frame as a classic track...
    But for 500 I think the classic track is a bit overpriced. look for a sale...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NormanF View Post
    Get the Kilo TT unless you want to pay for the Fuji brand name... its the same bike minus the brand name for which you're paying extra.

    We always rag on people who hit up the LBS to test ride frames/components, but somehow its ok for BD to completely cop another manufacturer's geometries...Found it real ironic in the Kilo WT thread when Mike claimed he was busy "designing" 60 new frames or something

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    The secret is BD bikes are made in the same Taiwan/China factories that produce frames for the bike brands.

    So if the bike label isn't important to you, you get that bike minus the middleman markup costs that inflate the final retail price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NormanF View Post
    Get the Kilo TT unless you want to pay for the Fuji brand name... its the same bike minus the brand name for which you're paying extra.
    They are completely different bikes.

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    Pardon my ignorance then. What BD bike is it comparable to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie View Post
    Not comparable to the Kilo TT. Basically, same bike as Windsor Hour, which sells for $280.
    Quote Originally Posted by yummygooey View Post
    Also the same as a Motobecane Track, more or less, which is also $280.
    ....

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    The Kilo has very different geometry than the above bikes.

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    true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mihlbach View Post
    What planet are you from?
    do you guys all drive a toyota or honda just because it gives you the most value for your money? how bout some variety here. seems like every entry level rider in this forum is pushed to a kilo tt. i wouldn't mind paying for a brand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeatherLight View Post
    do you guys all drive a toyota or honda just because it gives you the most value for your money? how bout some variety here. seems like every entry level rider in this forum is pushed to a kilo tt. i wouldn't mind paying for a brand.


    yeah, your performance bike fuji is SOOO unique

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    get a pk ripper. be different


    cc: that video is hilarious!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cc700 View Post


    yeah, your performance bike fuji is SOOO unique
    i know right??? -_- smh
    you find a new video for each of your comments?

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    no this one just seemed to fit.

    aint no sense listining to them haters cuz we whip em off


    and driving a toyota or honda because it gives you the most value for your money is TOTALLY a legitimate justification for driving a toyota or honda. ain't much better validation than that. don't mean your acura CSX isn't a good bike, just means you can get the civic ex for much less.

    seriously, your feather has a quill stem and nicer rims than the hour, but other than that it's the same. unless i'm missing something...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FeatherLight View Post
    do you guys all drive a toyota or honda just because it gives you the most value for your money? how bout some variety here. seems like every entry level rider in this forum is pushed to a kilo tt. i wouldn't mind paying for a brand.

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    For the most part a lot of these frames are only a few mm's to 1/10's of a mm difference on their dimensions, best to just download a pdf, or cut and past and the compare with a spreadsheet on what the manufacturer provides as geometry specs.

    http://www.fujibikes.com/bike/detail...sic_track_life
    click on the geometry tab

    http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/windsor/thehour.htm
    click on geometry size chart

    http://windsorbicycles.com/track.htm

    do some conversions if necessary, maybe even to get a more familiar frame of reference:

    http://www.convertunits.com/from/mm/to/inches

    For example, wheelbase of the Fuji 54 cm is 968.9 vs the Hours @ 971 mm, 2.1 mm is roughly .08 inches, which is roughly 2/3 of an 1/8". The chainstays are 408 vs 405 mm, again not even 1/8". Standover is 31" vs 30.5", that's 1/2" difference there. So there are subtle differences, let's hope the measuring points were accurate and done at the same locations for the standover measurement ?
    Last edited by fuji86; 11-17-10 at 04:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeatherLight View Post
    do you guys all drive a toyota or honda just because it gives you the most value for your money?
    I do not own a car, but yes, I would probably buy a Toyota.

    how bout some variety here. seems like every entry level rider in this forum is pushed to a kilo tt.
    I do not.

    i wouldn't mind paying for a brand.



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    I'd buy a Toyota because it's the sweet fixie of the car world.

    Ain't no red light gonna stop it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JesusBananas View Post
    I do not own a car, but yes, I would probably buy a Toyota.
    Don't be a fool. Branding on cars is a meaningless as it is on bikes. When you pay for a Honda or Toyota, you are paying extra for reputation (or "heritage"). You are better off buying a cheaper "dark horse" car, such as a Hyundai Elantra. Its basically just as good as a Toyota but cheaper due to its lesser reputation. You could say that Hyundai is like the BD of cars, but not really, because, unlike BD, Hyundai didn't buy someone else's heritage. Hyundai is more like the IRO of cars.

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