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Old 11-17-10, 12:34 PM   #1
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KHS aero track

thought about getting this frame for my wife. the track ends were re-done and had metal inserts installed. the owner says there are minor dings on the top tube and the chainring rubbed the chainstay a little.

anyone have any input on these frames? this particular one is a 50cm. ive read that they have MASSIVE toe overlap but im pretty used to it already.





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How much is it? IMO, I'd rather have a Leader 725 and not deal with any toe overlap.
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the guy wants 400 for it.
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Personally, I wouldn't touch it for any amount.
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the guy wants 400 for it.
i wouldnt pay more than 150 for that...it's a dented up, amateur welded KHS....and it's pretty fugly...
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Those welds are hideous.
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Go for this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/49CM-BLACK-TRACK...QQcmdZViewItem
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Its definatly been crashed before, probably the back end got hit/ ran over.
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looks like a mash. id offer 250 and see where it goes
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id offer a half-eaten bag of Corn Nuts and see where it goes
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Its definatly been crashed before, probably the back end got hit/ ran over.
why do you say this? when i meant the ends were re-done i meant resurfaced and the inserts installed.
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who recommends leaders? they have fake aero designs, creak like a mofo, and have terrible welds. what's the appeal? tarck status?
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If he's looking for an inexpensive aluminum frame for the gf, a Leader is a much better choice than that KHS.
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yeah im not necessarily looking for an aluminum frame but the khs was one of the bikes i was looking at. i might go with a 722ts. she really just wants one that fits her.
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who recommends leaders? they have fake aero designs, creak like a mofo, and have terrible welds. what's the appeal? tarck status?
suddenly Leader bikes are a big deal on this forum, I don't get it
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if they paid me, i'd probably recommend them too.
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I say, why not? I always liked pursuit geo
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i agree. there is a bit of shillage goin up in this beezy
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Nobody pays me to recommend Leaders. I ride one and my company makes their shirts. Is it wrong to recommend something I like?
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Scrod is no shill, he did a collaboration with Leader and that's it. He's recommending them simply because they are worth the money and it's quality made.

I recommend them as well, and I'm not even affiliated with them at all...
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the 725 v1 was definitely the complete opposite of quality and good design. i understand this was a while back and they do deserve a chance, but im actually a bit tired of a leader being recommended in every single thread. this guy wants to know if its good or not, not whether there was another frame that was a better choice.

maybe its just me.
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scrod, if you work at a bike shop, why don't you score some nice frames via retailer discounts? what's the deal with your affinity for cheaper frames?
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Heard it's pretty tough to weld Al, especially Al alloy, correctly. Seems shady, like a thrown-together flip bike.

Lowball the guy, keep the wheelset, throw the frame on the eBay, and put something else together for the lady. Something pretty.
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this is my wifes current bike:



its a couple sizes too big but components were adjusted to work out for her. also the guy is not selling the complete bike. he is only selling the frame.

also here are more pictures i got today:

dent 1:


dent 2:


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scrod, if you work at a bike shop, why don't you score some nice frames via retailer discounts? what's the deal with your affinity for cheaper frames?
For the same reason I wouldn't drive a Porsche just because I can afford one. I'm a relatively uncomplicated guy, I like what I like and I don't need to "prove" myself to anyone.
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