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Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

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Old 01-14-11, 08:07 PM   #1
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any idea what frame this is?

so i got this frame for a build of a fixed gear that ive been wanting to do for a while. found it at my community pick a part. but a search on google brings back nothing. the only 2 markings on the frame is procraft and legend. it doesnt have a actual stamped serial number on the bottom (just has a decal from my state with a assigned serial number). does anyone have any info on this frame?


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Old 01-14-11, 08:34 PM   #2
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Oh yeah, that is a procraft legend
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It would make a better single speed than a fixed gear due to the way the dropouts are. However, it can still be done and reasonably safely.
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You can convert that just fine, infact you could make a very utilitarian type fixed gear out of that.
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listen to dan. I have no doubt hes more knowledgeable than me here.
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Old 01-14-11, 09:35 PM   #7
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What ever you do saw everything off first. Like the head tube, Seat stay, You know that why everything is new and clean.
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Is that thing made for 26" wheels? If so, I'm super jealous. I have a terribly hard time finding old MTB frames with horizontal dropouts (and canti mounts.)

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It would make a better single speed than a fixed gear due to the way the dropouts are. However, it can still be done and reasonably safely.
Say whaaaaat? I'd like an explanation on this. That frame would make a perfectly good fixed gear/single speed.
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Yeah I think it is made for 26" rims. I have a 700c fork though so I'm gonna run 700c rims and just a front brake.
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Is that thing made for 26" wheels? If so, I'm super jealous. I have a terribly hard time finding old MTB frames with horizontal dropouts (and canti mounts.)
Yeah, you'll need, umm, my memory fails, I'm guessing 1986 or earlier for the horizontal dropouts and MTB production was far from peaking at the time.

But screw horizontal dropouts, you need the Leinenkugel's MTB!!!

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Holy cow, there is a gigantic bmx scene on the Oshkosh craigslist.
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Yup. Too bad BMX isn't my thing.. That Leinie's bike is cool, but I wouldn't drop $350 on it! By the way: I've seen horizontal dropouts on newer mountain bikes but they get lower-quality the newer you go. Take a look at bikes in Walmart: I bet you'll still find horizontal dropouts there.

Also, I want the OP's Procraft Legend
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Yeah I think it is made for 26" rims. I have a 700c fork though so I'm gonna run 700c rims and just a front brake.
Actually, you may not be able to fit a 700c wheel in the rear due to interference with the braces for the chainstays and seatstays.
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RE: Procraft Legend. Hmm, TIG'd steel, horizontal dropouts, canti on the back, guides instead of stops on the top tube. 1984 maybe? Odd that it's not lugged.

That doesn't look like a tubing sticker on the seat tube but I'm curious about what it says.

I've never heard of it. Could have been only for Asian or Canadien or Euro markets.

Edit: a search for Procraft mountain bike yielded a hit with a bunch of stems priced in pounds sterling. Kinda has me leaning towards it being a Euro brand.

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Yup. Too bad BMX isn't my thing.. That Leinie's bike is cool, but I wouldn't drop $350 on it! By the way: I've seen horizontal dropouts on newer mountain bikes but they get lower-quality the newer you go. Take a look at bikes in Walmart: I bet you'll still find horizontal dropouts there.
Yeah, the lower end held onto limousine length rear triangles and horizontal dropouts for longer than the mid and upper range.

Probably a bit high for the Leinenkugels, but I love that paint.
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Really? It seems that they'll be just enough room to fit it. But is there a way to measure to be sure?
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Hmmm, above the BB FD cable run. When did they stop doing that in road circles? Sheldon's kinda vague, just says mid-80s.
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Really? It seems that they'll be just enough room to fit it. But is there a way to measure to be sure?
Well, the diameter of a medium sized 700 x 32c tire is about 27" even, so the radius would be 13.5", so you'd need that much clearance from the center of the wheel axle to the braces. Assume the wheel is all the way forward in the dropout, which would be the worst case.
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Really? It seems that they'll be just enough room to fit it. But is there a way to measure to be sure?
The best way is to put a wheel in there. You don't need an inflated tire on there, but if you don't want to deflate the tire for wheel removal and install every time for the life of the bike, use a wheel with an inflated tire to test.

I've ridden setups that required deflation but didn't mind because I was usually pulling out a flat anyways. The worst is catching yourself trying to put a freshly patched, fully inflated tire back on the bike. Uggh!
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If you can get a 700c on it it would have to be all the way on the back of the dropouts and tire size could be really limited. Say at most, a 700x23c. If not, don't sweat it, a 26" wheel fixed gear can be fun.
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screw the frame, more interested in those guitars and that joystick
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That joystick is totally gnarly!
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The stick is a old thrustmaster f16 fcs and the guitars is a 1940s Martin and some yamaha.
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damn you and your 1940s martin.

my 74 orange label yamaha FG sounds and plays them any martin made after 1965.. so you win this round.
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Alright so the frame is probably a euro brand? The decal on the seat tube is just the same sticker on the headtube. There's no info on the tube material.
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