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Old 01-19-11, 01:38 PM   #1
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phil wood hub help

i just bought a used set of phil wood wheels from a gentleman who didnt know much about them, they are shipped.

the wheels are coming with a freewheel threaded on one side, and it never occurred to me when purchasing them that this rear hub might be a SS only hub, without the dual threads for a cog and lockring. based on this picture, is anyone able to tell if this is a single speed only hub or a true track hub with threading for a cog and lockring?? rear spacing is definitely 120, which is good, but i'm worried i might have just bought a wheelset that i'm going to have to run suicide style??

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Old 01-19-11, 01:40 PM   #2
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Post a picture and we may be able to tell you.
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what picture?
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Does Phil even offer a free/free hub?
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Old 01-19-11, 01:49 PM   #6
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Does Phil even offer a free/free hub?
well, this is only threaded on one side, so it would be a free/nothing. from what i understand you only get them by special order and they are pretty rare, none the less these are coming off a high end independent fabrications frame, so anything is possible, i just dont think we can tell by the limited pics alone.
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There's no way to be certain by looking at the pic but it's most likely a fixed hub with a freewheel installed on it.
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There is no way to tell until the freewheel is pulled. Also, that hub is on it's second lacing. Not sure if that matters to you, it wouldn't matter to me. Just say'n.
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Also, that hub is on it's second lacing. Not sure if that matters to you, it wouldn't matter to me. Just say'n.
How can you tell? Can I assume From the looks of/ the marks of the holes on the hub from the picture?
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There is no way to tell until the freewheel is pulled. Also, that hub is on it's second lacing. Not sure if that matters to you, it wouldn't matter to me. Just say'n.
good eye, though for the price i paid for the wheelset, and the reliability of these hubs, its not too much of a concern to me. wheels are on the way to my house, i'll have to pull the freewheel when it arrives and find out.

from the haphazard research i've done, it looks like there are very few 120 spaced rear single only phil hubs out there, so i have a pretty high confidence level i'm going to be OK here.

time will tell.
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Sounds like you got a good deal. Report back when you get them in your hands.
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Just picked a Phil Wood set and didn't know to look at the markings along the holes. Hopefully it's on its 1st. Does it make much of a difference?
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Just picked a Phil Wood set and didn't know to look at the markings along the holes. Hopefully it's on its 1st. Does it make much of a difference?
depends on a lot. the simple fact that it was relaced doesnt mean anything, the life it lead is more important. generally though, you cant kill phil.
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UPDATE, all is well in the world, hub is a true track hub with provisions for a lockring. wheels are in better shape than advertised, bearings silky smooth, love them.

many miles to come!
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Congratulations.

According to University Studies, you are now 17% faster than you would have been on Formula hubs, and your wheels will last an astounding 61% longer.
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UPDATE, all is well in the world, hub is a true track hub with provisions for a lockring.
wheels are in better shape than advertised, bearings silky smooth, love them.

many miles to come!
enjoy your Phil's.

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Congratulations.

According to University Studies, you are now 17% faster than you would have been on Formula hubs, and your wheels will last an astounding 61% longer.
the better news is that they cost me less than a formula set of wheels, and were built by a competent wheelbuilder, and are perfectly round and true, perfectly tensioned. your sarcasm is duly noted though
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