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    Wheelset advice

    Okay so my last wheelset is thrashed. I'm looking to buy a new wheelset. I'm thinking I might get velocity deep v's because I heard they stay pretty true in urban riding. I was looking at suns but I dont really know. I was going to order eigth inch tessas but I read that weinmann DP18's arent really recommended. I don't really know what kind of wheelset to get. I just want something that will be durable and that I can get asap because I can not ride until I get a new set.

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    Weinmann DP18s are fairly strong and cheap ($130 can get you a great set from Velomine... and they ship super fast), but they are heavy.
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    Mavic Open Pros. Tried and True. If built correctly, they'll keep you rolling until you blow your knees.

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    Will I be sacrificing that much quality geting dp18s opposed to velocitys? I'm sure anything is a step up from the ZAC1800s that where on my bike. I'm considering these right now http://www.velomine.com/index.php?ma...roducts_id=499

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    Quote Originally Posted by ismai1 View Post
    Will I be sacrificing that much quality geting dp18s opposed to velocitys? I'm sure anything is a step up from the ZAC1800s that where on my bike. I'm considering these right now http://www.velomine.com/index.php?ma...roducts_id=499
    No, I doubt you would sacrifice anything when getting DP18's instead of Velocity Deep V. To me, they almost seem the same, except DP18's tend to run a little cheaper I think?
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    lighter rim, more spokes, nicer hubs

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    Have you thought of the Wabi wheelset?

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    Another vote for Mavic Open Pros to Formulas..

    http://www.velomine.com/index.php?ma...oducts_id=1194

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    There was some discussion of this a little bit ago, here. I've heard more than one person say that Weinmanns are prone to flats.

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    Those flats won't happen if you install your tubes and tires correctly.
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    I've been riding the weinmanns pretty hard for a couple years now and I have no chronic problems with them. They are kinda heavy and I'm excited to get lighter, more sensible wheels now that I know better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BmoreDrew View Post
    Another vote for Mavic Open Pros to Formulas..

    http://www.velomine.com/index.php?ma...oducts_id=1194
    Not to steal the thread or anything, but I just checked out this link for the open pros. I compared the weight to that of my EighthInch Julian wheelset, and these are apparently a little over 3 pounds lighter!

    So, I was wanting to ask if anyone knew just how much I am missing out on? I knew my wheels were a bit heavy, and generally dont care about weight, but that's alot!

    Will 3 pounds in rotating weight make a huge difference?? or should I not worry about it? anyone have experience going from heavy wheels to really light ones? THANKS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDorian View Post
    Not to steal the thread or anything, but I just checked out this link for the open pros. I compared the weight to that of my EighthInch Julian wheelset, and these are apparently a little over 3 pounds lighter!
    No, that's not right.

    The velomine listing incorrectly lists the front Open Pro wheel at 100 grams. You should have probably guessed that wasn't right. It's probably more like 900 grams for the front wheel, and more-or-less 1900 for the wheelset. The julian wheelset is around 2600, so yeah, 700 grams difference, or a 1.5 lbs.

    That's still a considerable difference, but not "over three pounds."

    You're not really missing out on much. You will maybe be able to tell a difference, but weigh is not as important for you as durability. And Open Pro / Formulas are by no means "really light". They make a strong wheel, but nowhere near what would be considered lightweight for a road wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsh View Post
    No, that's not right.

    The velomine listing incorrectly lists the front Open Pro wheel at 100 grams. You should have probably guessed that wasn't right. It's probably more like 900 grams for the front wheel, and more-or-less 1900 for the wheelset. The julian wheelset is around 2600, so yeah, 700 grams difference, or a 1.5 lbs.

    That's still a considerable difference, but not "over three pounds."

    You're not really missing out on much. You will maybe be able to tell a difference, but weigh is not as important for you as durability. And Open Pro / Formulas are by no means "really light". They make a strong wheel, but nowhere near what would be considered lightweight for a road wheel.
    Thank god. I should've assumed that wasn't right. I was thinking that I've been lugging around an unnecessary 3 pounds in rotating weight for no reason.

    But I'll stick with my jullians then, so far they've held up really nicely for the money. & I normally dont pay too much attention to weight unless it's really significant (3 pounds or so, hahha).

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    Has anyone got the wheelset from wabi? (jalchos I think? I'm not looking it up because I am pushing a genie around for light focus haha. Soooooooooo boring)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ismai1 View Post
    Okay so my last wheelset is thrashed.
    What wheelset did you trash, and what exactly happened to it? What size tires were you running? This might make it more clear how strong your new wheelset should be, and how to avoid trashing it.
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    He got hit by a car. I doubt it was the wheelset's fault.

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    +1 on open pros

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    I would get CXP33s laced to formula hubs for a fixed gear. They are a little beefier than OPs. I have them on my roadbike since I'm a skinny clydesdale, and they are phenomenal rims IMO. OPs would be fine if you don't do stupid stuff on your bike.
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    You can't go wrong with the savings you'll get from the Weinnman's just be sure you get them trued/tensioned by a good shop or any wheelset you buy online is gonna give you problems. Wheels are like any other part of the machine, if you take care of them they will last you longer than you're gonna want them on your bike.

    I've had Open pros, cheap Sun, ALX wheels, Velocity, Mavic, you name it, and none made that much of a difference when riding fixed.

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    Bicycle wheel warehouse has better deals than that velomine site. They let you choose your options for spokes, nipple and hub colors/type, and for formula hubs they have loose vs sealed bearing hubs.
    cxp33s: http://www.bicyclewheelwarehouse.com...m/prod_60.html
    OPs: http://www.bicyclewheelwarehouse.com...m/prod_59.html
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    What about the IRO wheelset? They look nice
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    You can build an IRO wheelset for about a hundred bones by buying the stuff from their website. Seems like nice enough stuff. I really like the hubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsh View Post
    You can build an IRO wheelset for about a hundred bones by buying the stuff from their website. Seems like nice enough stuff. I really like the hubs.
    +1.

    Though, I'd buy some double butted spokes from a local shop.

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    I've been riding Weinmanns for a couple years in downtown Seattle with next to no flats. Could be less glass in the streets on account of the craptastic economy tho...

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