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Old 01-25-11, 03:00 PM   #1
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Help me understand fork+headset differences

I am a bit confused about the differences between threaded and threadless setups.

I purchased a Windsor The Hour with a threaded fork setup. The Cannondale that I have is also a threaded setup, both using the same size quill stems. I have had a 1" threadless setup (Kilo) and now a 1 1/8" (Madison).

I need to purchase a new headset for the Windsor as I am painting the bike, and I would like to switch to Threadless if I can. Here is where I get confused...

Is there a steer tube size difference between 1" and 1 1/8"? Is the headset setup dependent on the frame? everybody talks about swapping Kilo setups to threaded, but I am just having the hardest time wrapping my head around this issue.
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Old 01-25-11, 03:05 PM   #2
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Yes, you have to use the right size headset in the right size steerer regardless of its system.
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I threw on a few 1" headset spacers onto the Cannondale and they fit like a glove A.k.A both the Windsor and the Cannondale are 1" quill stem setups and therefor if I want to go Threadless on the Windsor I must find a 1" headset and a 1" fork correct?
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Yep. The threaded/threadless stuff can be hard to understand at first. This might help: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/headsets.html
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I thought the Windsor was 1 1/8" quill. Strange.

BikeIsland have a 1" threadless fork for a relatively low price.
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From my understanding it is a lot easier to go from a threadless set-up to a threaded set up then from a threaded to threadless.

However, velo orange does sell a converter to go from a threaded set-up to a threadless.
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.p...m-adaptor.html
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Uh, I think the process is the same; new headset and a new fork. Threadless forks might not have the right inner diameter to fit a quill stem even if they've been threaded.
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You will need a 1" threadless fork and 1" threadless headset.

Basically, both fork and headset will be need to be threadless.
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Lilcphoto, Cane Creek S-2 1" threadless headsets are on sale at Nashbar (silver or black) or Tree Fort Bikes (silver) for $39.99, and Bikeisland (silver or black) for $40 and free shipping.

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I still have the original fork from the windsor. I need a new headset for it, and since I have the fork, I'll just keep it threaded and find a quill stem that will work.


...As for the new fork and stem that I picked up... I guess I'll just have to find a new frame for them



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it looks like those lightspeed, quintana roo, or festina forks on the bay.
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Stop teasing.
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Seriously. Im getting ready for nothing): Looks like a litespeed. Cause the edge of the blue. And its 1x1 weave.

Well, Get a nice quil stem, and polish the headset and stem. (:
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I still have the original fork from the windsor. I need a new headset for it, and since I have the fork, I'll just keep it threaded and find a quill stem that will work.


...As for the new fork and stem that I picked up... I guess I'll just have to find a new frame for them



Plz post more pics! Thats a threaded stem??
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Whoa... I thought that picture of the stem was a picture of a funky seat collar and its reflection off of a really shiny surface. Da der.
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