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Old 01-28-11, 08:51 PM   #1
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how much better would a Mercier Kilo TT be from what I have

I have a conversion Nishiki frame
how much better would a Mercier Kilo TT be from this?
really want a new bike and can't decide whether to save up for a Leader 725/721/722 or just go with a Kilo.
so how much better would a kilo be from mine, and how much better is a leader to a kilo?
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Old 01-28-11, 09:01 PM   #2
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a leader isn't much better than a kilo. what the kilo lacks in stiffness it more than makes up for in ride quality. and leader's aren't that lightweight, the components you choose have way more to do with it.

honestly the only reason i'd get a new bike would be to get new cranks, bb, wheels, and forks. those are all that make your current bike a lame bike.

and the kilo would be a big step up from your conversion compared to a kilo to a 721, but none of the above listed will be worth hundreds of dollars unless you don't like that bike or it doesn't fit you.

and to be honest it doesn't look like it fits you.

if i were buying a new bike i wouldn't get a bikesdirect bike like the kilo OR a leader. i'd want something nicer or more unique or less expensive. maybe a wabi.
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yeah, it doesn't fit me, too tall. so that is a big reason i want a new bike
i went with these 2 cause well the kilo for 360 on bd seemed like a great deal and i hear it get recommended a LOT and it caught my eye quite some. same with a leader, i hear it get recommended a lot so it would be something nice to save up for.

edit: and haha yeah, very aware of how lame of a bike i have, i got the frame at a swap meet and just bought new wheels for it, kept what ever cranks, bb and fork it had. really, i just did what i could to get it running for the moment and just never went back to actually cleaning it up or upgrading any parts.
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Coming from a conversion, the first thing I noticed about the IRO was the faster acceleration. It just felt slightly faster.

This might as be the case for you as well.
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Old 01-28-11, 09:30 PM   #5
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what about weight wise? I see that the Kilo's are steel frames, and I was rather liking a lighter ride, will any choice i go with be lighter than my conversion?
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A kilo can be made pretty light with the correct choice in parts. CC700 would no.

From my pov lightest my steel frame has gotten is 16.8 or something i have the picture somwhere in this forum. i really wanted 15.

Also A lighter bike doesnt make you slower or faster. Someone with a 20-30 pound bike can just have the skills to achieve a high speed. It just depends on how you ride and like your ride.
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What is your budget right now?
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what about weight wise? I see that the Kilo's are steel frames, and I was rather liking a lighter ride, will any choice i go with be lighter than my conversion?
To be honest, I only shave like 2/3 of a pound when I switched frames but it fits me better than my old conversion.
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my kilo is 18.5 or under. the stock kilo is something like 20 without the brake.

lightweight isn't a reason to buy a bike unless you're spending over 2k on the build.

seriously, you don't want a lightweight cheap bike, especially if you're going to put those wheels on it.

i love the kilo, but the only reason i would get it instead of a leader is because you'll be more likely to ditch that converson comepletely instead of build your leader with the three or four parts that will swap over.
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yeah i see what you mean, but i am only hesitant of a heavy bike because before my nishiki, i had a HEAVY steel schwinn that i used to dread riding cause it felt like a behemoth of a heavy ride

edit: well i planned on, if i get a new bike, i wouldn't be switching anything from my old bike and just either go with the stock things of get something new basically.

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Most modern fixed gear bikes can easily get you around 20-22 lbs. Don't worry too much about weight.

My Motobecane Track, which is hardly upper end, was 20.67 lbs with a front brake.
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I'm not too hung up about weight, just would prefer a light(er) bike if i could get it
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The only reason I'd recommend you get a different bike is because yours doesn't fit you. IMO fit is very important. I think the bike itself is just fine, although maybe a tad ugly... I don't know what wheels those are, but the rest of the parts look good. Nice old lugged frame, forged crankset, etc. The only thing I'd recommend for your current bike is to get some SS chainring bolts so you can ditch the outer ring.

Out of curiosity, how much does it weigh?
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haha yeah, like i mentioned, it is too tall for me, which IS my biggest reason for wanting a new bike. yeah, i ditched that outer chain ring, its an outdated pic. the wheels i have are some jetsets i got at a lbs for $120. nooo idea how much my bike weighs, but i think i should really find that out xD haha

edit: budget is what ever. well, nothing too much but i will definitely save up like $600-$800 tops for a bike for now
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