evilcryalotmore

I have alot of lactic acid build up near my thighs,

I already spent 20 minutes on the foam roll but it's still killing me when i ride.

Any suggestions?

Squirrelli

Water water water water water water water.

evilcryalotmore

It's build up from previous rides. its my main tight spot...

yummygooey

HTFU or take a day or two off.

fixedgear80

Are you riding SS or FG?

RunningPirate

From running I've heard a couple of things:

1) Recovery, but not necessarily a day off. I was told that the day after a long run, do a sort, slowish run. This not only trains your muscles to keep working when their tired, but also helps purge the LA out of your leg muscles. I've done this and it works. I'd reckon this can be translated to riding somewhat.
2) **WARNING - I have NOT done this** Baking soda mixed with water...but not a lot. Baking soda is basic and lactic acid is...well...acidic. Mix some with water and it is supposed to neutralize the LA. The word of caution is that too much baking soda will give you some temporary digestive tract problems (probably has something to do with neutralizing some of the acid in your stomach, but that's a guess), so don't get crazy. A link: https://strength-training.wikidot.com...muscle-burning (NOTE: I'd do some more reading before trying this)

rustybrown

time for the roids.

warnette

The lymph system has no active independent circulation. It is greatly dependent upon the contraction of muscles too clean it out. This is why light exercise is needed to help facilite its removal from muscles. Also when resting keep your legs elevated, above the heart if possible.

Leukybear 

/thread

Apparently you've never taken biology/ physiology yet...

warnette

No no no no and no

RunningPirate

Fair enough. Now, it appears that you've had some physiology training; can you explain why this doesn't work? I mean, the basic chemical reaction would work, but I'm not understanding what's going on in the body that stops the reaction.

warnette

Baking soda is sodium bicarbonate aka good old fashioned antacids, hence when you take a whole bunch you neutralize a lot of stomach acid causing the aforementioned GI problems. From here on out im a bit on the hazy side since i mainly deal the the IV route of it. But i do know for sure that large doses regardless of the route of it can cause problems with water retention from the high amount of Sodium and cause numerous kidney problems mainly kidney stones.

With proper nutrition and training it really shouldn't be a problem. the methods i mentioned earlier along with things that facilitate better circulation. A good deep massage is a good way but can be pricey if done regularly. BCAA supplementation is something im a fan of. Scivation makes a great product that I use and feel greatly improves recovery.

Also citruline malate in large doses used to be popular but has fallen out favor, but is still in Scivations product
https://www.scivation.com/products/xtend.htm

xkillemallx16

i remember the biology book being as thick as a dictionary. arent you 15 evilcryalotmore? biologys a ninth grade class... i didnt learn much though to be honest.

TMonk

Go on a really really easy 30 min spin around the neighborhood, take a long shower and then stretch afterward.
Works for me.

If you've been riding really hard for a few days in a row or more than maybe a day off is in order.

Retem

go to gnc get some afterglo recovery shake or some protein take it before or after a long ride to help prevent this
try eating a healthier diet and drink more water

evilcryalotmore

The problem is, The lactic acid build up is staying in my thighs, Its been hurting for the last week or two since the accident.

I can hardly get up from sitting.

I'm trying to realize the lactic acid, I've already stretched out the muscle on the foam roller for 20 minutes every morning for the last week. but no go.

When i get on the bike, Its fine when i start but when i get off, my blood keeps pumping acid out and my body needs more oxygen, and it just stays in my muscles.

Anyone know any good stretchs or anything to roll the acid towards my heart or lungs so i can breath it out or sweat it out.

Leukybear 

Err soreness? It'll go away on its own.

hairnet

"active recovery"

alanknm

Have you tried a slow cooldown ride before you get off the bike ? I sounds like you're not flushing your muscles out.

warnette

Hell no

icyclist 

For a full account, OP, of what's causing your pain – and it's not lactic acid – go here:

https://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/02/why_do_muscles_hurt_after_exer.php

While it's a bit deep, its written for the layperson.


Money quote:

"...exercise consists of a repeated cycle of surge and slurp of calcium ions...altering the calcium balance of the cell leads to the activation of enzymes that break down and rebuild proteins in the cell. What that does is promote active remodeling...and growth of the muscle. It hurts because the muscle is under construction...No pain, no gain."

yott

it's not latic acid, it cause you're working your muscles too much without enough rest. your muscles are fatigued and this is your body's way of telling you to stop before you mess it up. this is best i can explain it without getting into physio terms.

edit:

rest for a couple days and up your protein intake a little so your muscles have some materials to rebuild with. cant build a building without the materials.

Scrodzilla

Drill holes in back of your thighs and let that **** ooze out. Maybe your bro can suck some of it out with a straw to speed things up. You'll be back mashing in no time.

ScottRock

First of all. "Lactic acid" does not build up in muscle tissue--it's lactate, the base form of lactic acid. pH imbalances in muscle are due to the increased metabolism of ATP with anaerobic exercise. In Switzerland there's this crazy drink called Rivella that's made of milk whey with a ton of lactic acid, and people drink it as a f-in sports drink. Lactic acid is not the problem.

Second of all. This doesn't sound like a blood pH problem at all, if you only just began having this problem post-accident.

I think the best thing you can do for yourself is alternate days between rides, and always thoroughly warm down after exercising. If you absolutely must ride every day, pace yourself on the "off" days--don't do any serious hillclimbing or whatever. If it IS a chemical problem in your legs, then i'd try 5 minute periods of lying on your back with your legs in the air, or hyperventilating (breathing really quickly), while resting of course. Hyperventilation decreases the relative amount of CO2 in your blood (simply speaking), and thus makes your blood more basic. I've never tried that so don't kill yourself doing it.

clink83

WTF where do you people come from? Your drive to breath is based off CO2 levels. If you do that, as soon as you resume normal breathing your blood pH level will return to normal.

You tore your muscles, now let them heal. /thread.