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Old 03-15-11, 11:15 AM   #1
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Bianchi Pista or Super Pista?

I'm going to get one or the other, but wanted some input to see if it is worth it to save up the extra few months for the Super Pista. I ride my road fixie every day around town but want to start getting into track racing.
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Old 03-15-11, 11:19 AM   #2
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I believe the Super Pista is hands down better than the regular Pista, correct me if I'm wrong, because I don't know ****! lol
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Old 03-15-11, 11:35 AM   #3
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The pista and super pista are entirely different beasts...one is for street riding, the other is for track racing. You can ride on the street and track race with either frame, but neither is optimal for both. Sounds to me like you really don't know exactly what you want yet. I would look around and not confine yourself to Bianchi....there are lots of other bikes that are somewhere in middle ground between these two frames, performance-wise, and cost-wise.

Also, as a general rule for myself, if I have to save a few months to be able to buy a particular bike, then that means buying it is probably not a fiscally wise choice. In this case it seems to me like you are intending to save a few months for a frame?...not worth it. You'll go the same speed with just about any frame.

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Old 03-15-11, 11:52 AM   #4
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Your logic is strong, mihlbach.

I'll just mention the "seafoam green Leader."
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Old 03-15-11, 01:01 PM   #5
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$339 frame + $299 fork = $638

It makes no sense when you could get the Super Pista for $100 extra.
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Old 03-15-11, 01:07 PM   #6
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It makes no sense to drop three hundo on a fork in this situation.
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Old 03-15-11, 01:08 PM   #7
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Could he mean the Pista Concept compared to the Super Pista?
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Old 03-15-11, 01:24 PM   #8
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No, I'm referring to the steel framed Pista. I like your logic mihlbach, but I'm also not in any hurry for a new bike either. My Panasonic conversion I'm riding now is a solid bike and will last awhile but its not exactly a quality bike. Any reccomendations for other companies then?
Thanks for the input everyone,
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Old 03-15-11, 01:47 PM   #9
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It makes no sense to drop three hundo on a fork in this situation.
You do realize that Leader produces only one 28mm rake fork, which is their carbon fiber offering. Installing a 44mm rake fork will dramatically alter the geometry of their bike.
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At this point, if you absolutely need a new bike, go with something from bikesdirect...they are good bikes for the money and the frames are very upgradeable and should keep you satisfied for a long time. However, if your current bike is fine and you aren't in a hurry for a new bike, I would resist the temptation to buy now and just continue riding around on what you have, continue to think about what you like/don't like about it, and keep reading up on whats out there to buy. I've ridden nearly 30,000 miles on fixed gear bikes and I can tell you that my idea about what works perfect for me is still evolving, albiet at a slower rate then when I was a beginner. If you wait a few months, and keep researching, you'll probably find that you end up getting something thats very different from your initial interests.

The FG bike that I have ridden the most cost me $1200. I've ridden it about 10,000 miles which comes to about 12 cents a mile so far and I'm not nearly done with it yet. Except for a few different saddles and different sized cogs, I've never spent a dime upgrading it because I built it from handpicked parts. If you put a lot of miles on your bike, dropping the cash on a good bike is worthwhile, but you really want to know what you are getting into beforehand, because if you put out a lot of money for a nice bike you may be stuck with it a long time and may end up spending a lot more to get it right. So the bottom line is take your time and don't jump into an expensive bike until your ready. In the meantime a cheaper bike will go just as fast.

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Old 03-15-11, 03:07 PM   #11
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You do realize that Leader produces only one 28mm rake fork, which is their carbon fiber offering. Installing a 44mm rake fork will dramatically alter the geometry of their bike.
Geometry issues are always a bit sketchy with leader.I'm pretty sure the HT angle has been the same from V1 to V3 and my V1 was offered with the Alu fork(don't remember rake) and the 40mm road fork.They also recommend the 35mm steel fork or the 40ish carbon fork for the 722.My point is that one can't be too sure that the trackfork actually is a perfect match as it was designed for the discontinued 735.FWIW my 725V1 handles just as good with the 40mm fork as my Tommaso and my roadbike with 35mm forks,all with a 75 HT angle.
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you're getting a BMW, do you want a 325 or an M3 with a comp. pack? They can't really be directly compared
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Old 03-16-11, 09:07 AM   #13
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Thanks a lot mihlbach, thats some really helpful information. I'm going to keep researching and riding friends bikes.
Everyone else, good stuff too.
Cheers,
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