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    Quote Originally Posted by nealjoslyn View Post
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    Click for larger images. And yes, my bike is magical and can balance on its own.

    Someday I'll get a fancy camera.

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    i love dura ace low flange track hubs. with a hot hot passion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cc700 View Post
    i love dura ace low flange track hubs. with a hot hot passion.
    Me too. Especially when you service the bearings regularly. Smooooothness.

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    I need some help deciding between a Kilo TT and another bike. Would y'all rather I post my question here or start a new thread? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskaz View Post
    I need some help deciding between a Kilo TT and another bike. Would y'all rather I post my question here or start a new thread? Thanks!

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    What's to decide, your in the Kilo thread, GET A KILO! They are great bikes!

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    What's the other bike?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilcphoto View Post
    What's to decide, your in the Kilo thread, GET A KILO! They are great bikes!
    LOL, I knew it! Here goes...

    I've been planning on getting a Fuji Classic Track for a while now. Hopefully will be test riding one this weekend. I know everyone here is all "LOL, overpriced" but I'm super short with a very short inseam and the Fuji comes in a 43cm frame with 650c wheels. My options at this size are limited, to say the least.

    Well lo and behold, the Kilo TT now comes in a 44cm! This must be a new development, because I've looked into it before and the smallest was a 47. I assume it's still 700c wheels because the standover looks to be about 2+cm higher than the Fuji. I like that the Kilo comes with a flip-flop hub; this will be my first ss/fg bike and I've never ridden fixed before. Shhh, don't tell anyone but I'm a bit terrified of riding the Fuji because it only comes fixed. I am so going to eat it on my test ride. But I also like the idea of the 650 wheels, seems more proportional on a tiny frame.

    Are any of the pics in this thread of the 44cm size, or has anyone seen the 44cm Kilo? Is the top tube sloped (which always seems to happen on these small frames)? I'd love to year y'all's thoughts on the Fuji vs. TT. Or can I just predict the continued chorus of "Get the TT!" from here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by REMspeedwagon View Post
    Couldn't find the Kilo thread so here she is again



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    @misskaz FUJI! j/k they're both great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskaz View Post
    Well lo and behold, the Kilo TT now comes in a 44cm! This must be a new development, because I've looked into it before and the smallest was a 47. I assume it's still 700c wheels because the standover looks to be about 2+cm higher than the Fuji.

    Are any of the pics in this thread of the 44cm size, or has anyone seen the 44cm Kilo? Is the top tube sloped (which always seems to happen on these small frames)?
    There has always been a 44cm Kilo TT, but it is more like a 47cm, since the frame is sized c-c. The problem for you is not so much the standover, but the fact that there will be severe toe overlap with the front wheel and the head tube will be much higher than the top of the seat tube, so you will probably be forced to position the bars higher than the seat. There is significant slope to the top tube. I'd stick with the Fuji or look for another bike with 650c wheels such as the IRO Mark V HD (Heidi).
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    Stick with the 650 Fuji. The 44cm Kilo is wacky looking and like TT said, will have insane amounts of toeverlap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
    Stick with the 650 Fuji. The 44cm Kilo is wacky looking and like TT said, will have insane amounts of toeverlap.
    I'll show you!
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    MissKaz,

    Here is a 44cm Kilo with 700c wheels:


    I agree with the others who have said toe overlap will be a significant issue. I ride a 47cm and it is a perfect size for me with 28.75" inseam. Even at 47cm I feel 700c looks a bit big.


    (ignored the stem height, I was experimenting)

    I recommend that you go with the Fuji 650c not only for appearance, but rather performance:

    - the wheels are sized more proportionately to the frame size yielding a more balanced feel
    - the wheels will accelerate slightly better
    - smaller wheels means lower standover height
    - smaller wheels reduces the severity of toe overlap.
    Last edited by puppypilgrim; 04-21-11 at 01:55 PM.
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    Last edited by muckymucky; 04-21-11 at 06:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puppypilgrim View Post
    MissKaz,

    Here is a 44cm Kilo with 700c wheels.
    link fail?

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    I <3 bfssfg.

    Might swing by the shop on the way home from work to see if the Fuji is in yet. They keep saying they'll call me when it comes in but then they don't and then someone else buys it.

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    How tall are you? Just wondering. My girlfriend is about 5'2" and she still has to tip toe over the top tube of the 44cm kilo I just her.

    I personally think it looks kinda cool, but the seatpost is a bit slammed and the stem has to be pretty close to the headset.

    the 700c wheels reminds me of:


    I'll post pics when it's finished, just need to get the fork cut and install the star nut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calv View Post
    How tall are you? Just wondering. My girlfriend is about 5'2" and she still has to tip toe over the top tube of the 44cm kilo I just her.

    I personally think it looks kinda cool, but the seatpost is a bit slammed and the stem has to be pretty close to the headset.

    I'll post pics when it's finished, just need to get the fork cut and install the star nut.
    I'm 5'1" with short legs. I can't stand over my 46cm geared Bianchi Volpe (with a sloping top tube) like you're supposed to be able to -- kinda have to lean the bike to one side -- and it's mostly fine. But would be nice to have one with a little more clearance especially if I ride it fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyeswho View Post
    Do cousin's count?

    Nice wheels!

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    Cross posted from the SS/FG thread. I love omniums now, that is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
    Stick with the 650 Fuji. The 44cm Kilo is wacky looking and like TT said, will have insane amounts of toeverlap.
    or
    http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/..._al_carb_x.htm
    same thing but cheaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskaz View Post
    I'm 5'1" with short legs. I can't stand over my 46cm geared Bianchi Volpe (with a sloping top tube) like you're supposed to be able to -- kinda have to lean the bike to one side -- and it's mostly fine. But would be nice to have one with a little more clearance especially if I ride it fixed.
    For sure you are a candidate for a bike with 650c wheels. I'm 5' 3" with a 28" inseam and still can't stand over some of my 49cm track bikes with 700c wheels. Also remember that a track bike will have a higher BB than a road bike, so the standover height will be higher for a given seat tube length. i have a rando touring bike with 650b wheels, and it is a much better fit for me with plenty of standover and toe clearance with the front wheel. Something else you might consider down the road is getting shorter cranks than 165mm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie View Post
    For sure you are a candidate for a bike with 650c wheels. I'm 5' 3" with a 28" inseam and still can't stand over some of my 49cm track bikes with 700c wheels. Also remember that a track bike will have a higher BB than a road bike, so the standover height will be higher for a given seat tube length. i have a rando touring bike with 650b wheels, and it is a much better fit for me with plenty of standover and toe clearance with the front wheel. Something else you might consider down the road is getting shorter cranks than 165mm.
    I was thinking just this for my girlfriend. Maybe 160mm eighthinch cranks and going from M to S toeclips?

    Are you saynig you put 650b wheels onto your track bike, or that your bikes with 650 wheels are better fitted for you?
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