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    how original.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/TRATP-track-fixi...item3f0904264f

    now where have i seen that before?


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    But just wayyyy uglier.... I see they're taking points from puma as well.

    TRATP is such a nice name too!

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    lulz I love how the box says "FIXIE BIKE"

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    i need one of those froks they're talking 'bout
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    missing the reference here. What's it copying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EpicSchwinn View Post
    missing the reference here. What's it copying?
    leader 727tr mostly....

    The tapered/ partly jointed down and top tube resemble a fuji track pro

    The tapered down tube looks like a puma bike's top tube...

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    At first glance, I thought that pic was of one frame. A little bit of smoke is still coming from my ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
    At first glance, I thought that pic was of one frame. A little bit of smoke is still coming from my ears.
    Me too. Mind = blown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
    At first glance, I thought that pic was of one frame. A little bit of smoke is still coming from my ears.
    Yeah, why do Visp, BikeIslands, et al insist on taking pictures of like 12 frames at a time?
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    I just bought a 51cm in the polished finish. Will post details when it arrives
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    Cool.

    This further proves to me that visp and leader are made in the same factory.
    Last edited by cc700; 05-24-11 at 11:55 PM.

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    The TRAP frame seems similar to the TRNXL-2 but with a top tube in design of Trek T1/ new GT Pulse
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    There are less similarities than you'd initially think:




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    ^truth

    they aren't "ripping off" leader by making a polished aluminum fixed frame, curved downtube or not
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    Quote Originally Posted by cc700 View Post
    Cool.

    This further proves to me that visp and leader are made in the same factory.
    I really really doubt this.

    Really.

    I had a 2008 735TR and that thing was really light, the level of sophistication was way better than any Visp I've seen.

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    Like I've said in another thread, maybe some of the hydroformed tubes are produced in the same factory but that's about it.

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    Yeah, taiwan is going crazy with the hydroformed tubes. How many bikes have you seen with that seat tube?
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    I've seen a Visp side by side with my Leader and even though the seat tubes are similar, they're not exactly the same.

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    they're not the same, but the top tube of mine is shaped like a 725's and the seattubes are very close if i remember my friend's 725. the level of sophistication and lightness of a lot of the other tubes(stays, dropouts, headtubes, downtubes) are obviously different, but i am not sure how many factories there are piecing together bikes from the same tubesets. could be just different machines in the same factory, could be these are just banged out really quick and not put a lot of time into R+D or engineering, but to say they're not similar is silly. just like the 735tr was really close to some of the rebranded english companies, these are really close to leaders.

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    This is now a Taiwanese aluminum frame thread.

    In no specific order

















    Last edited by REMspeedwagon; 05-25-11 at 10:00 PM.
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    Clearly the VISP and Leader are not the same. You only have to weigh them to see the difference. I have a VISP TRX790 and a Leader 721tr, and the VISP frame is about 2 lbs heavier. However, the build quality is about the same. Welds are equally good on both frames, alignment is good, spacing is good, threading is good, paint is good. I think the eBay seller at one point claimed the VISP was made in the same Taiwanese factory as name brand Giant, and I wouldn't doubt it. The differences are in the sophistication in the forming of the tubing, straight gage on the VISP and much thinner (lighter) double butting on the Leader, straight round chainstays with a dent on the outside for crank spider and chainring clearance on the VISP and multi-bend oval chainstays to provide clearance w/o the need for a dent on the Leader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cc700 View Post
    but i am not sure how many factories there are piecing together bikes from the same tubesets.
    I believe this is closest to being correct
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    in the end, you get what you pay for. simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xkillemallx16 View Post
    in the end, you get what you pay for. simple as that.
    Or less.
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