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max5480 05-23-11 04:07 PM

Old cranks on new BB squeak
 
Shimano 600 cranks from 1988 on new Sugino square taper bb are making a lot of squeaking noise. It's not the bb cups. Any suggestions besides tightening the crank arm bolt as hard as I can?

BoozyMcliverRot 05-23-11 04:48 PM

Grease the spindle interface.

Scrodzilla 05-23-11 05:26 PM

Greasing a square-taper spindle isn't always the best idea.

vw addict 05-23-11 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 12683822)
Greasing a square-taper spindle isn't always the best idea.

oh god, here we go.

vw addict 05-23-11 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by max5480 (Post 12683500)
tightening the crank arm bolt as hard as I can?

and no not this please

Scrodzilla 05-23-11 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by vw addict (Post 12683922)
oh god, here we go.

http://www.dailyhaha.com/_120s/monkey_smiling.jpg

Soil_Sampler 05-23-11 06:19 PM

iso
 
ISO taper?

http://www.suginoltd.co.jp/english/p...ap_english.htm

Cyclomania 08-09-11 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by BoozyMcliverRot (Post 12683676)
Grease the spindle interface.

Yes! Thank you for posting this! Makes definite sense!

GeoKrpan 08-09-11 11:29 PM

I'm having the same trouble. IT IS THE CRANK BOLTS. I tighten them down, they loosen up, I tighten them down, they loosen up...............
After I tighten them, no creaking.
I was thinking of going back to the bolts from the old BB. They're tightened with a 14mm socket. There was never any creaking with the old BB with these bolts.
The new BB, Interloc Racing, has 8mm hex key bolts with rubber seals. I have a suspicion that the rubber seals may have something to do with the loosening. Before I put the old bolts back on I'll remove the rubber seals on the new hex bolts and see if that solves the problem.

peazweag 08-11-11 05:32 AM

Its the bolts use the 14mm hex bolts .thats why I run cottered cranks YOU TIGHTEN THEM WITH A HAMMAH.NO NOISES EVER!!!!Lol

EssEllSee 08-11-11 09:58 AM

I have had more problems with square taper BB's then most :(. Not to beat a dead horse, but from what I understand greasing spindle is a bad idea, and it makes sense why you shouldn't. Next time will definitely stick to external BB's.

Scrodzilla 08-11-11 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by EssEllSee (Post 13068046)
Next time will definitely stick to external BB's.

Which have their own set of problems.

GeoKrpan 08-11-11 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by peazweag (Post 13066861)
Its the bolts use the 14mm hex bolts .thats why I run cottered cranks YOU TIGHTEN THEM WITH A HAMMAH.NO NOISES EVER!!!!Lol

I'm sure cottered cranks have their issues too.

I've had square taper setups that never creaked.

I think the problem I'm having is due to the plating on the spindle. The old spindle was not plated, super cheap, but the new BB is nicer, Interloc Racing, with a nicely plated spindle.
Next time I have it out of the bike I'll try roughing it up with some sandpaper. Although, I took some square taper BBs out of some old bikes and the spindles didn't have a scratch on them despite being well used.
They were Shimano BBs, a UN72 and a UN91, with pretty plated spindles.
The UN91 was in a "duraluminum" Alan cyclocross bike from the mid-90s and it creaked like crazy. I think it was due to the softness of the frame.


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