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Old 05-29-11, 08:30 PM   #1
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Thoughts on the Freedom Thickslicks.

Going to be upfront with this. Initially when I first got them last month they were great. Today I found that the front tire has developed bulges in two spots. One on the tread surface, the other on the sidewall. When I have a tire go bad on me, it's almost always the rear tire. So having it be the front took me by surprise, removed them from the bike they were on and threw on a GrandPrix 4000 on the front and a grandprix 4 seasons on the back.

I would say stick to gatorskins, armadillos, pasela tourguards Vittoria Randoneurs. The thickslicks really are not worth the $$$ afterall in my opinion.
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Old 05-29-11, 09:16 PM   #2
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One bad tire does not a pattern make. Anyone else had issues with them?
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Mine worked fine...just a question though, what model did you have? and how long did you run them?
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Hmm maybe give them a second chance? Sounds like a factory flop.... have you tried to explain what happened to whoever makes thickslicks for a replacement?
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Old 05-29-11, 11:12 PM   #5
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iirc I read another bfssfg guy complain about these tires too. I was really hoping these would be good tires :/
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Probably should have waited for the reformulated Urban Elite model. Mine are amazingly tough.
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Off topic, but I remember seeing somewhere online that sold Thickslicks for $18 or something like that... Does anyone know this site?
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Old 05-30-11, 04:45 PM   #8
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The internet, how the **** does it work?

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...w=1278&bih=618

http://www.ebikestop.com/freedom_spo...ire-TR1023.php
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I feel dirty, like damaged goods:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt32dARKqGs
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I looked, but I couldn't find it. I didn't think to use Google Shopping. I don't see why people get like this over helping someone out who can't find the answer.. isn't that what is forum is for?

But thanks for the links, I appreciate it.

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If you do buy these, make sure to get the Urban Elites. You'll thank me.
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If you do buy these, make sure to get the Urban Elites. You'll thank me.
damn the elite urbans cost 17 bucks more, may i ask what's so much better about them, or if this tire is even worth $30 (and shipping)
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480g for the Urban Elite model!!!

I would just get randonneurs if I wanted something bombproof and cheap.
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damn the elite urbans cost 17 bucks more, may i ask what's so much better about them, or if this tire is even worth $30 (and shipping)
The sidewalls are reinforced, preventing what happened to Dannihilator's. I can see mine lasting a long time. I was skidding like crazy yesterday just for the hell of it and there aren't even any visible marks on my rear tire. Also, I think you may need to shop around more:

http://www.treefortbikes.com/product...hickSlick.html

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I would just get randonneurs if I wanted something bombproof and cheap.
I kinda hate Randos. Sure, they're tough as Hell on steroids but I find them to be pretty sluggish, even when over the recommended psi.
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Excuse me for asking, but will these work with schrader valve tubes? And what PSI do they go up to?
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Whether or not a Schrader valve will work depends on the rim, not the tire. If you've got rims drilled for Schraders, you'll have no trouble.

25s are rated for 65-110 psi and 28s are 65-100 (but I've got about 120 in my rear 28).
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I see. What's the difference between the 25s and the 28s? Are they different width or different thickness?
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i have a thickslick, albeit i think one of the cheaper models. i have allot of tires. like, allot just hanging around that i dont use lol anywho....

the first time i tried this thickslick i threw it on the back of my road bike. and tried it for the first time in rainy conditions. i thought slicks were supposed to be more grippy but my back tire skidded a touch on tighter turns, did it a handful of times. i took it off and put a fyxation 700x23c on the back instead. IMO just from personal experience, fyxations have excellent grip, and feel solid in tight turns. they have wrap around tread but i think whatever material they use just seems/feels grippier.

anywho im giving the thickslick a second chance on the front now that its getting hotter/sunnier. perhaps they just need to be worn in or something i dunno
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slicks are definitely grippy, but they are not to be used in wet conditions as there are no threads.
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well i guess that makes sense lol
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I see. What's the difference between the 25s and the 28s? Are they different width or different thickness?
Both.
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slicks are definitely grippy, but they are not to be used in wet conditions as there are no threads.
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People ask, "But don't slick tires get slippery on wet roads, or worse yet, wet metal features such as expansion joints, paint stripes, or railroad tracks?" The answer is, yes, they do. So do tires with tread. All tires are slippery in these conditions. Tread features make no improvement in this.

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is it complete and utter blasphemy to disagree with one point made by the great sheldon brown? im not going off of fancy physics, just personal experience....2 slick tires ive ridden didn't seem that grippy on concrete roads, especially in wet conditions, while more treaded tires ive ridden (like the fyxations with tread on the walls) seemed much more grippy, especially in turns in wet condtions.

perhaps both tire and road material has some factor on tire grip. people say slicks have more grip since there is more surface contact but i would think a treaded tire with grippier tire material would be more grippy than a slick with more slippery material....

the cheapo thickslick i bought has a material that definitely feels more slick while the fyxation i have feels much more....tacky i guess. i dunno
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my point was based off of personal experience and extensive research from when i use to do track days (motorcycle / cars) racing. slicks usually come with softer rubber compound and provides better grip due to full contact patch vs a treaded tires. think of treaded tires like nubs on mtb tires, it is suppose to disperse water when riding over wet surface. i dont know how different this applies to bicycle tires, but id assume the concept is the same.

slick tires should be pretty sticky once broken in. then again, it depends on how soft the rubber is and the condition of the weather. soft rubbers will become hard in cold condition and softer in warm/hot condition. thats why there is a difference between winter and summer tires.

obviously in wet/loose surface, any tires will not perform at 100%.
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