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Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

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Old 06-02-11, 10:36 AM   #1
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older peugeot frame?

ive found a peugeot frame on craigslist that i think would make a good fixie. I dont know which one it is or much about it other than brand and the color is red. It has a horizontal drop out going inward. It comes with the fram, a cut handlebar which i kinda like. and it has original crank and pedals, no wheels, makes it good so i could buy a good pair of wheels for it. does anyone know if this will make a good fixed gear bike? Thanks
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Old 06-02-11, 10:40 AM   #2
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Peugeot's always make great conversions. If you have a french thread bottom bracket shell, then make sure you head over to Velo Orange to pick up that french thread bb. Otherwise, no real complications.

I miss my Peugeot. I should build up another one... or try and find a peugeot track frame.
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what colour red?
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i can post link to both craiglist posts (posted one eirly may and one later may both have different picture) and he wants $50. is that a good price for the frame, handle bars, 2 brake handles, front brake clamp, i think front crank, and pedals. About how much would it cost for me to get the rest of the parts. thanks for the help so far guys
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No. Furthermore, avoid Peugeot in general. Unless you know exactly what you're buying, you may quickly find yourself in a nightmare involving ebay and a whole bunch of nonstandard, nearly irreplaceable parts.
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I love my Peugeot conversion, and it's about as frankenbike as you can get with a 700c fork (soon to move back to a 27"). The geometry is definitely weird now because of that, and it doesn't handle nearly as tightly as my proper track bike, but it's got a few charms: (1) Looks, vintage Peugeot is stylin'. Superficial, but whatev. (2) It's surprisingly light and stiff.

Parts is a draw back. All the French replacements / alternatives are more expensive. If you're doing a conversion to try and build a low-cost fixie, don't do it. As far as difficulty, the sheldon brown page on french bikes (http://www.sheldonbrown.com/velos.html) was about all I needed to successfully build mine up. Velo orange BB is a good call too.

Peugeot's seem to vary in price based on where ya live. Where I am (Montreal), that vintage French style is super popular and 60s-late 70s Peugeot's easily sell for $120+. I've seen frames+forks (nothing else) go for $70ish.

In sum, I think it's fun and sexy to convert old Peugeots, but not practical or economical. For the time/money you invest, you could probably build an overall nicer-fixie. If you've never tried a proper track frame, I would recommend seeing if you can test ride one vs. a conversion. The difference is substantial. That said, my Peugeot is my winter ride, partially because it's a beater, but also because I think the non-track geometry might be better in snow/ice (more trail = more centering = less fishtailing/losing control over ice/snow). But hey, I'm no expert.
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No. Furthermore, avoid Peugeot in general. Unless you know exactly what you're buying, you may quickly find yourself in a nightmare involving ebay and a whole bunch of nonstandard, nearly irreplaceable parts.
Eh, it isn't that bad. Knowing what year/model helps. Peugeot make bikes from high-end road race machines down to gas-pipe bike boom tanks.
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Even the low-end UO-8 isn't bad. I'm pretty sure that's what I'm using (or some other low-end variant).
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What frame would be for me to buy and make a good fixed gear out of new parts then? Also below is a link to the peugeot, if it would work with what I want to do.

http://annapolis.craigslist.org/bik/2367658114.html
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If you're looking for new frames, you've got lots of options and questions to ask: budget? style of riding? aesthetics? weight concerns? etc. I'm riding Eighthinch's basic 'Scrambler' frame that I got for $117 (I think $180 now?). Nothing too too special, but it does the job and is holding up fine. In general, unless weight is a big concern, I tend to think there are other parts more worth the money in upgrading than frames (e.g. brakepads are wayyy too overlooked)

That Peugeot would still work for a conversion. It's really similar to mine, and definitely is a lower end one (you can tell by the sticker that says Carbolite 103, low-end steel tubing). That said, at $50, worst case scenario ain't that bad. It's got the original BB, so you're not necessary out for the $55 Velo Orange BB and a new $50+ crank. If you've got a bike co-op or are resourceful and can turn an old cotter-pin double crank into a single you could build a super cheap fixie that would run fine. Honestly though, I would turn that Peugeot back into a road bike, not a fixie.

Really, how much work, time, effort, and money do ya wanna invest? If you wanna be confident with your choice, I'd say just research as much as you can. You'll inevitably learn more about bikes, repair, and what you want out of your ride.
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$50 is ok if it is the only frame availible. I found two of those bikes (one in mint condition, as in straight out from 25 years of indoor storage and maybe 100 miles on it) at the dump. Used one for a winter beater, they are pretty heavy, I ended up bending the fork (don't do trials moves on lakeshore ice with studded tires).
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With summer break coming up I can put countless hours onto making a bike. I was thinking of spending any where from $300-600 on making a complete bike depending on what I have to start with. Any suggestions on frame? I was looking at some volume cutter frames and they look pretty good if I could get a used frame.
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