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Old 03-31-14, 08:46 PM   #8351
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That's really odd. I just pulled one of those forks off the shelf and all the 9mm axle nuts I've got here at the shop fit just inside that recessed part of the dropouts.
Are you talking about the stupid government safety tabs on the fork dropouts ? I had to file them off on my new Bianchi Super Pista fork for the axle nut washers to chear them and sit flush against the dropouts.
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Old 03-31-14, 08:48 PM   #8352
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No (but I hate those things too).

Look at the attachment Carleton posted.
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Maybe a dud that got past QC? That happens sometimes.
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That's really odd. I just pulled one of those forks off the shelf and all the 9mm axle nuts I've got here at the shop fit just inside that recessed part of the dropouts.
Okay, problem seems to be on my end, not with the Leader fork. I have 3 sets of front (9mm) track nuts, and they are all identical outer diameter to my 10mm rear track nuts. But based on this photo of dura ace track nuts, can I presume that 9mm track nuts are supposed to be slightly smaller external diameter???

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The ones I've got here (Dura Ace, Miche, Campy and generic) all have washers that are a little smaller.
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The ones I've got here (Dura Ace, Miche, Campy and generic) all have washers that are a little smaller.
Bingo. Thanks Scrod (and Carleton).
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First of all, use a fit calculator and figure out what frame size you actually need. Secondly, do you want steel or aluminum?
Thanks Scrod, done, CT should be around 56.4-56.9 according to www.competitivecyclist.com.
Steel or Alu....not too hung up on either from what I've read as mostly riding hard-ish 20-30km round town but no track, not many long road rides and no real off-road either.
As someone else mentioned, I checked with the Leader distro here and the Renovatio here has front/rear brake holes COMPLETE BIKES | BROTURES ONLINE | ?????????BROTURES????????
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would i notice any difference in quality between a set of machine built wheels vs. a set of hand built wheels? (assuming the components are identical on both)
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Thanks Scrod, done, CT should be around 56.4-56.9 according to www.competitivecyclist.com.
Steel or Alu....not too hung up on either from what I've read as mostly riding hard-ish 20-30km round town but no track, not many long road rides and no real off-road either.
As someone else mentioned, I checked with the Leader distro here and the Renovatio here has front/rear brake holes COMPLETE BIKES | BROTURES ONLINE | ?????????BROTURES????????
All framesets sold in Japan are required by law to be drilled for two brakes. The Kagero/Renovatio framesets sold here in the US are not drilled but (as we were just discussing on the previous page) the fork is drilled and plugged in the front.
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would i notice any difference in quality between a set of machine built wheels vs. a set of hand built wheels? (assuming the components are identical on both)
Assuming you'll be having the machine-built wheels tensioned and trued by human hands before riding on them, probably not.
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QC on A23s get any better recently? And are they really weighing out at ~430g?
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I just sent a few back for having a ****ty finish and the joint seams on them usually suck.
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IRD technoglide sealed cartridge or Tange Falcon/Levin or a VO headset

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That largely depends on whether you want cartridge or cages bearings.
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That largely depends on whether you want cartridge or cages bearings.
I'd prefer the cartridge bearings, but overall would want the better headset while keeping the classic look.
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The only one I've ever personally used is the Tange Levin so I can't really have an opinion of the others.
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Please stop asking me "would you buy this?" questions. That is not the purpose of this thread.
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damnn I immediately deleted that cause I found I was in wrong thread but you got me.
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how was opening night at the track? I saw on FB you guys closed early to go see some racing.
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QC on A23s improve lately? and are they actually weighing in around 430g?


Know of a lighter 23mm wide rim? Only one I know of is the ZTR Iron Cross, but stans advises against mounting road tires(which blows, cause its a cool ass ****ing rim. 23.2mm wide, 17.5mm deep v, nmsw.) I kinda want to try it anyway.
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QC on A23s improve lately? and are they actually weighing in around 430g?
I already answered you about the quality on this very page. Published weight is accurate, they're 426g on my scale.

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Know of a lighter 23mm wide rim? Only one I know of is the ZTR Iron Cross, but stans advises against mounting road tires(which blows, cause its a cool ass ****ing rim. 23.2mm wide, 17.5mm deep v, nmsw.) I kinda want to try it anyway.
Archetypes only weigh 450g.
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how was opening night at the track? I saw on FB you guys closed early to go see some racing.
We had a blast but I drank way too much beer and had to bail on the post-race night group ride about halfway through because everyone's blinking lights were making me see double.
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I already answered you about the quality on this very page. Published weight is accurate, they're 426g on my scale.
I'm stupid, what can I say? Couldn't remember if I actually asked or not, then forgot to check, haha.

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Maybe actually. A23s are kind of noodley.
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Archetypes are far superior rims. Use ultralight latex tubes if you're being a weenie about the extra 20g.
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