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Old 12-01-04, 11:27 AM   #1
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this frame ok for fixed conversion?

Take a look at thisÖ the guy want 60 bucks for it. Is this frame okay for a fixed-gear conversion? He says the dropouts are long enough for it, but Iím new to the fixed-gear world, so Iím not sure what to look for. Also, if the cranks are one-piece, can they be converted to three-piece? The frame is straight and no dings, etc.

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http://chicago.craigslist.org/bik/50781935.html

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Old 12-01-04, 12:05 PM   #2
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Frame looks like a good candidate for conversion.

Go here for info on BB compatibility and adaptibility:
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/opc.html
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Old 12-01-04, 12:11 PM   #3
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Yes, assuming it fits you.
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It's alright - Peugeots can be a little tough to fix depending on whether it has French parts, etc. My first SS was a Peugeot, not worth it all in all.

Since you're in Chicago, why not go down to Working Bikes? They have literally hundreds of bikes from 20-70 bucks. http://www.workingbikes.org.
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i think for $60 you could do better.
you might need a new crank. It kinda looks like that one might have the chainrings bonded together.
The paint scheme makes it look like a later model, so it likely won't have french threading, so that's good.
It looks like a later model UO-8, made of peugeot carbolite 103 tubing. decent stuff, kinda heavy, but the dropouts are likely just stamped steel.
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excellent! thanks so much for that link, that's good stuff.

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It's alright - Peugeots can be a little tough to fix depending on whether it has French parts, etc. My first SS was a Peugeot, not worth it all in all.

Since you're in Chicago, why not go down to Working Bikes? They have literally hundreds of bikes from 20-70 bucks. http://www.workingbikes.org.
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okay, i'm going to reply to this again. I just went through most of their site and really like what i see. I think i'm going to talk to them about volunteering some time. it seems like a great organization.

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It's alright - Peugeots can be a little tough to fix depending on whether it has French parts, etc. My first SS was a Peugeot, not worth it all in all.

Since you're in Chicago, why not go down to Working Bikes? They have literally hundreds of bikes from 20-70 bucks. http://www.workingbikes.org.
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i scored a magnificent carbolite peugeot for my lady's first fix at a thrift store for 10 bucks. they're nice, but i guess after that episode i have a hard time seeing someone spend 60 on one. only drawback we've seen yet is the low BB.
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okay, i just found this thread
bike repair coops
and am now less excited about the place. i'll still give them a shot, though, and see if I can find myself a good frame for a fixed coversion...
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Truth be told I wouldn't put much stock in that thread - that's one person's opinion. Working Bikes is a good place. There was an article in the Reader about Johnny Payphone who with the help of and as part of Working Bikes went to Ghana to help build utilitarian bikes.

You have to understand - Working Bikes is a simple, dirty (as in literally), operation. They're not a co-op in that sense - you can't go and fix stuff up and whatnot there. You get a bike or donate and bike and you're on your way. I'm not kidding you when I say they have hundreds of bikes. It's a huge space. I've bought 4 bikes there, and many of my friends have scored parts, bikes, etc there too. I also know people who have worked/volunteered there, no shadiness in question.

To give you an idea of what you can score there, here are three of the bikes I bought there and subsequently built (mine - $60, roommate's boyfriend - $30, roommate's - $50). A tip: if there are parts you don't need (derailleur, brakes, handlebars, pedals), ask them to strip them off and they'll keep dropping the price. -



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and am now less excited about the place. i'll still give them a shot, though, and see if I can find myself a good frame for a fixed coversion...

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Well, of course i'll check them out for myself before I make any firm opinions. I guess I wish they woudn't advertise them selves as a 'co-op' if they aren't exactly. It's more like a bike thrift shop.

by the way, those are some SEXY bikes you pictures. I hope I can get that lucky. Very good scores, my friend. Thanks for the opinions, i like knowing what people think!

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Truth be told I wouldn't put much stock in that thread - that's one person's opinion. Working Bikes is a good place. There was an article in the Reader about Johnny Payphone who with the help of and as part of Working Bikes went to Ghana to help build utilitarian bikes.

You have to understand - Working Bikes is a simple, dirty (as in literally), operation. They're not a co-op in that sense - you can't go and fix stuff up and whatnot there. You get a bike or donate and bike and you're on your way. I'm not kidding you when I say they have hundreds of bikes. It's a huge space. I've bought 4 bikes there, and many of my friends have scored parts, bikes, etc there too. I also know people who have worked/volunteered there, no shadiness in question.

To give you an idea of what you can score there, here are three of the bikes I bought there and subsequently built (mine - $60, roommate's boyfriend - $30, roommate's - $50). A tip: if there are parts you don't need (derailleur, brakes, handlebars, pedals), ask them to strip them off and they'll keep dropping the price. -
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Yeah, check them out. They are weird guys, but talk to Owen, the shorter guy with red hair and emo spex, and you will get a great deal. The tall guy with dark hair and a beard I dunno about.
I bought two bikes there, a 79 Schwinn for $20 an an Iverson 3-speed for $40, plus 10 to true the wheels (they were pretty bad, steel rims).

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absntr,

Awesome! Beautiful bikes!

Speaking of Peugeots, I used to have an early '80s Carbolite 103 bike I converted to a SS and the problem was the rear wheel kept shifting in the dropouts since they were cheap stamped steel and I finally converted it to a two-speed with a ft. derailler. Then I wrecked it so I just scrapped the frame since it was beyond repair. I should add it had a quick-release rear hub which was part of the problem.

I now have an '88 Peugeot mtn bike that's now a fixie. It has really nice Simplex dropouts with threaded holes on the back of the dropouts for the tiny adjusting screws.
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Truth be told I wouldn't put much stock in that thread - that's one person's opinion. Working Bikes is a good place. There was an article in the Reader about Johnny Payphone who with the help of and as part of Working Bikes went to Ghana to help build utilitarian bikes.

You have to understand - Working Bikes is a simple, dirty (as in literally), operation. They're not a co-op in that sense - you can't go and fix stuff up and whatnot there. You get a bike or donate and bike and you're on your way. I'm not kidding you when I say they have hundreds of bikes. It's a huge space. I've bought 4 bikes there, and many of my friends have scored parts, bikes, etc there too. I also know people who have worked/volunteered there, no shadiness in question.

To give you an idea of what you can score there, here are three of the bikes I bought there and subsequently built (mine - $60, roommate's boyfriend - $30, roommate's - $50). A tip: if there are parts you don't need (derailleur, brakes, handlebars, pedals), ask them to strip them off and they'll keep dropping the price.
All three of you have really short stems. (At least that's what it looks like from the pics.) Cool bikes! I'd be proud to own any of the three.
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Short stem = more responsive steering.

Seriously, only the first bike seems to be particularly short. The other two seem to be a pretty reasonable reach. I think I may have a Nitto stem that's got a shorter reach than any of them that treats me quite well. If they ever made a quill DH stem, that'd be it.
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Indeed - the second two are pretty normal stems. My bike has that super short stubby stem which I love to death. It's a Nitto, 50mm. Like BostonTrevor said, super responsive. It came with the bike. I got fortunate.



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Short stem = more responsive steering.

Seriously, only the first bike seems to be particularly short. The other two seem to be a pretty reasonable reach. I think I may have a Nitto stem that's got a shorter reach than any of them that treats me quite well. If they ever made a quill DH stem, that'd be it.
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