http://pilderwasser.com/images/basket_of_potential.jpg (not a SomaFab.)
and they have more prestige than pake, that's for sure.
The hipster district in SF is the mission.
SoMa is not really well defined in culture. For example, the SFMOMA and Yerba Buena Center for the Arts are there, so at time it seems like the art district...but the Moscone convention center is also there, so it seems very business oriented as well.
How do you like my venndiagram?
| south of market | hipsters | Mission |
I like it but I don't understand it.
Kinda like how I feel about Hopf Algebra.
I don't think Charlie was trying to say anything about the quality of Pake.
Somafab is just more well known for its quality (i.e. prestige).
Where did you get it for that? MSRP was $499.99. For $60 more one could get a Dodici Gara with an Alpina carbon fork. When it comes down to it, if both were at MSRP I'd buy the Gara.
there were a few sales for black friday, i think city grounds had it for less. the gara also costs tons in shipping...
but yeah... i wasn't meaning prestige like quality, i meant prestige like "people like and trust the brand." and a portion of that is quality, but it's more that people like and trust the brand and associate it with steel road-going bikes.
When is Leader going to start hooking up the dodicis?
Real world pricing is around $400-425. I really love their blue. Thanks for the pics & info
From one Charlie to another, that looks pretty damn good!
I'm wondering how spinny 42x16 is going to be on the rollers. I'm considering switching from 53x19 to 48x16 (a common ratio on the track) when I get my rollers.
The handling is impressive. I had heard that track geometry is designed to allow good handling at speeds roughly between 50 and 70 km/h. I can't say I have ridden at that speed on the road with this ratio yet. Easy to ride no hands above 20 km/h. short wheelbase and reasonably high BB mean some quick corners. The GP 4000s don't hurt either.
Removing the decals on the frame was easy. just peel and wipe with a mild solvent. BB shell and headtube did not require any facing during assembly.
I also think the drops look better on it, but for running around town and stuff i really enjoy the flat bar with the MTB ends. they are surprisingly comfy to ride on, though they may not be the most elegant