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What chain tool will work on a KMC Z710SL?

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Old 12-02-11, 02:53 AM
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What chain tool will work on a KMC Z710SL?

Title says all. Also purchasing Park Tool SR-18 chain tool for my new 1/8" chain conversion, and white lightning.
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I always use my trusty little Rivoli chain tool without any issues.

Stay away from wax lubes. Wet lube is much better.
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Thats the one I use too because I have a KMC 410H on my BMX bike. Works like a charm.
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
I always use my trusty little Rivoli chain tool without any issues.

Stay away from wax lubes. Wet lube is much better.
I'm trying to get it from amazon because my friend is buying a 2 dollar guitar chord, and wants free shipping. So I'm picking up a prk tool sr-18. What model is the Rivoli? And what chain lube do you recommend?
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The Rivoli Universal 9-10SP chain tool is the way to go. As far as lube goes, my favorite is Finish Line Ceramic Wet.
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for a chain tool that you're going to leave in the shop, full size is the way to go. that Rivoli looks like a pretty good design, but the smaller ones simply are not as comfortable to use as the full sized ones you can use your whole hand to operate, as opposed to fingers.

if you need a tool that is more portable, by all means the smaller ones work perfectly fine, but a good shop tool cant be beat.
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I've used/own just about every chain tool in existence and the one that works best on the K710-SL chain is the Rivoli - which is specifically what the OP was asking about - and is actually the most reliable chain tool I have. At the shop or at home, it gets used the most and I've never broken one.

In my experience, full-size chain tools are overly cumbersome. You don't need a full hand grip to remove a chain pin.

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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
The Rivoli Universal 9-10SP chain tool is the way to go. As far as lube goes, my favorite is Finish Line Ceramic Wet.
https://www.amazon.com/Cyclo-Rivoli-U...2838303&sr=1-1

That?
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Yes. Or this:

https://www.amazon.com/Cyclo-Rivoli-B...d_sim_sbs_sg_1
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla

In my experience, full-size chain tools are overly cumbersome.
not my experience at all, but - you've probably operated on many more chains than i have, i guess we each have our preferences. in my opinion, this is the greatest chain tool in the free world.

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The Campy tool is nice but the oversized/oddly-shaped plates of the K710-SL won't fit inside it.

This and the fact that it costs 200 bucks makes me not need it.
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The Campy tool is nice but the oversized/oddly-shaped plates of the K710-SL won't fit inside it.
good to know.
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x2 on the Rivoli for that chain, as if the Mighty Scrod's opinion needed support. When I needed extra leverage, I just attached a set of vice grips to give me a good handle to hold. Only needed to do this once though.
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Yeah, it's a weird chain. It's like KMC should make a specific tool.

The Park CT-3 will work on it too but I've broken more pins on that thing than I can count when using it on the K710 or K710-SL.
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I use a X-Tools chain tool and it works like a charm, and it's small too.
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Will that Rivoli work on a Shadow Conspiracy chain?
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It works on KMC half link chains so it should.
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He is talking about Chainwhip tool Parktool SR-18 not chain break tool... anyway to the point: I use SR-18 and its pretty good to tighten your cogs
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Originally Posted by bmw
He is talking about Chainwhip tool Parktool SR-18 not chain break tool... anyway to the point: I use SR-18 and its pretty good to tighten your cogs
Learn to read:

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Will that Rivoli work on a Shadow Conspiracy chain?
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learn to read the OP: "Also purchasing Park Tool SR-18 chain tool for my new 1/8" chain conversion, and white lightning."
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Learn to read the THREAD TITLE and the rest of the OP's posts regarding the chain tool.

Never once did he ask if that Park chainwhip would fit his cog.

Also, learn to use the 'Reply With Quote' button.

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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla

The Park CT-3 will work on it too but I've broken more pins on that thing than I can count when using it on the K710 or K710-SL.
Man. I'm going to buy the Rivoli from you later. My Park Tool one sucks! I broke about 3 pins, and the little screw on drive pin. I bought a new one for 6 (6!) bucks and it still wouldn't spin straight anymore. **** this.
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Wish I woulda known this before I got a Park CT3. I figure I won't be using it too often though, and some of the parts are replaceable right?

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Well thats the difference between one person owning a tool versus a Coop or a LBS where the tools are used all day long. My Parktool is lucky if I use it once a week. It will last me a long time!
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I wish I heard of all these tools before I bought the more popular ones. Bah. Oh well.
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