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so i just got my windsor clockwork in the mail.. (question)

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Old 02-07-12, 06:55 PM
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so i just got my windsor clockwork in the mail.. (question)

hey everyone. i just got my windsor clockwork in the mail. i'm working on putting it together right now. got the saddle, stem, and pedals on. i THINK i put the front wheel on right - but both the general owner's manual and the online video i watched talk about a quick release, and i didn't see that in the package. does anyone else who got a windsor clockwork from BD have a quick release/do all bikes come with that/am i missing this piece?

i just unscrewed the end nuts, slid the wheel into place, and put them back on and tightened them. it seems right, it rolls back and forth. but was that right?

sorry this is such a dumb question - this is my first bike. thanks!
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You did fine. Make sure to torque them to 260-390 in-lbs.

https://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-...s-and-concepts
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no idea how to go about that. but i'm bringing my bike into my LBS on thursday so they can true my tires up for me. i was going to ask them to double check my tire assembly.
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Do not ride it yet. Take it to a bike shop for them to grease up the seatpost/cog/lockring/bottom bracket/pedals. After that is done you should be good to go. While you are there ask them many questions about how each part of the bike works and how to adjust things when you need to.
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Originally Posted by Spoonrobot
You did fine. Make sure to torque them to 260-390 in-lbs.

https://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-...s-and-concepts
I've never seen the LBS here (or in 3 other states/4 cities/2 countries) bust out the torque wrench to tighten a front axle nut. Not once. I feel cheated.
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Originally Posted by Benson
Do not ride it yet. Take it to a bike shop for them to grease up the seatpost/cog/lockring/bottom bracket/pedals. After that is done you should be good to go. While you are there ask them many questions about how each part of the bike works and how to adjust things when you need to.
This.

Have the LBS check everything over.
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Originally Posted by Santaria
I've never seen the LBS here (or in 3 other states/4 cities/2 countries) bust out the torque wrench to tighten a front axle nut. Not once. I feel cheated.


Under-tightening can cause the fastener to loosen over time. Over-tightening can destroy the fastener or greatly reduce it's lifespan. Why wouldn't a prudent person want to make sure the proper torque is applied?

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Originally Posted by Spoonrobot
Under-tightening can cause the fastener to loosen over time. Over-tightening can destroy the fastener or greatly reduce it's lifespan. Why wouldn't a prudent person want to make sure the proper torque is applied?
You could have just said this and not potentially started an internet argument.

Edit: nice fix

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sure there's nothing wrong with it and it's better to do so if the option is there but...

I've also never seen anyone do it. even the more delicate stuff I've very very rarely seen a torque wrench come out to play (shops included).

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Originally Posted by Spoonrobot


Under-tightening can cause the fastener to loosen over time. Over-tightening can destroy the fastener or greatly reduce it's lifespan. Why wouldn't a prudent person want to make sure the proper torque is applied?
It's not axle nuts rocket science. Just tightened them to the point it won't come off if you hit a huge bump.
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Yeah man, what everyone else said don't ride it yet. It's gonna be the back wheel you should be worried about the cog and lock ring should be extra tight.

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Originally Posted by tgscordv6
It's not axle nuts rocket science. Just tightened them to the point it won't come off if you hit a huge bump.
And, at what point would that be?

"Really tight?"

Well, that stunning specification is going to vary greatly depending on the person, the tool used, the drop-out types and even the fastener type. The point is that it pays to be aware of proper torque specs. Even something as general as "around 60 pounds of force on the end of a 6-inch wrench" is better than nothing.

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If I were a shop mechanic I would use a torque wrench to reduce liability. For myself, my wheel is on and off most often far from home. At least people make some connection to tighten axle bolts. It is suprising how many people can't operate a quick release correctly or skip the QR aspect all together and use the lever like a wingnut
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think about a QR skewer on front and rear wheels. anybody use a torque wrench to adjust and latch those? i don't think so. we guess, and say to ourselves "ok, that's good". or something to that effect.

most of us learned to tighten a nut by the time we were ten years old. a couple of stripped threads, rounded off heads, and snapped bolts and we were there.

then there's my brother-in-law who refuses to stop tightening nuts until beads of sweat appear on his forehead.

BTW, least anyone think i regard torque wrenches as useless, i would recommend them for many high performance engine type applications, i.e. head bolts, big end bearing bolts, crankshaft bearing bolts, headers, clutch plates, flywheels and many others. bikes are low stress by comparison.

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Spoon,

I didn't take offense either way. I can appreciate the value of using a torque wrench. I merely said that I've never seen one used at a bike shop in my 38 years. It doesn't mean that its right or wrong.
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think about a QR skewer on a front and rear wheels. anybody use a torque wrench to adjust and latch those? i don't think so. we guess and say to ourselves "ok, that's good", or something to that effect.
There's a proper way to do that too.



I mentioned this earlier. If you can't do it the right way at least have an idea of how to properly do it "wrong."

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What the hell happened here? It's a frickin nut. You tighten it.

Anyways, I'm surprised the headset didn't give you more trouble. Maybe mine had just been jostled apart more during shipping. But please do have a pro check it all out for you. And if they don't charge, be awesome and buy some accessories from them. Buy accessories anyways.
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Spoon is still correct, even if the decidedly poor attempt at English makes me vomit a little in my mouth. The info, however, is correct.
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Spoon is still correct, even if the decidedly poor attempt at English makes me vomit a little in my mouth. The info, however, is correct.
you didn't actually READ that did you?

...anyway, it reminds me of the poster in my protologists office that outlines (in 10 steps) how to sit on the toilet and take a crap. i actually DID read that one. and what was surprising was that i routinely performed 6 of the 10 steps!!!

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So....... curious. Am I pooping correctly?

Fine. Going to google now.
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BFSSFG - where overthinking things is high on the priority list.
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