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Old 12-19-04, 12:13 AM   #1
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what do you wear in the cold?

just wondering what everyone wears when it's cold as hell out.

i've got some under armor that i wear under several layers of cotton, which does the trick, but i'm gonna need more pretty soon. i have yet to shell out money for any sort of a wind-breakerish thing. i'm getting a balaclava and long johns soon.
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Old 12-19-04, 12:24 AM   #2
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This might be more appropriate for the winter biking forum. But since you asked....

At 35 or 40 deg F, I throw on a neck gaitor. I have no problem with breathing outside, but going inside induces serious coughing fits so I like to be able to pull it up over my mouth. At 35, I switch from the fingerless gloves to some fleece lined leather work gloves. At 30, I switch out the cotton jersey with cotton T on top for a heavy nylon jersey with cotton T (all under a cotton sweatshirt). At 25 or 30, on go the synthetic long underwear. Somewhere below that and I put on the wool socks (dunno, I just got a pair this year, but they're soooooo warm). Somewhere below that and I switch from the hoody to a proper windproof winter coat, I haven't yet hit that point, though I seem to recall that it's somewhere in the teens.

A lot of it also depends on how long your ride is. This is commuting garb for me and it's a quick 20 minute / 5 mile ride, so I don't need much.

What I do know is that I bailed when it hit -10 last winter. I aim to do better if we have a repeat this go round.

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Old 12-19-04, 01:20 AM   #3
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Cut-off tube socks make sweet arm warmers!
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Old 12-19-04, 02:41 AM   #4
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Layers. Stocking cap, gloves, windbreaker. Colder i throw on longjohns. Colder i replace the windbreaker with a coat. Colder i replace the gloves with winter gloves. Colder i ***** a lot and freeze. Last winter i rode some -10 degree days with windchill here in lovely kansas. It sucks.

Can't say B I T C H ? Seems rather tame.
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Old 12-19-04, 02:59 AM   #5
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When I bike into work..I often wear windpants at work, following my shower..I wear the windpants home when it is below 50...This past morining, when I took off it was like 43 degrees..Very cool for we woosie SO. Calers...I find windpants work much better in such cold conditions over leg warmers..
I just hate to wear such loose clothing during the ride...I notice very little traditional clothing holds up to the friction of the saddle...The windpants crotch area gets thread bear after not many rides at all..Seams start riping apart.No way to treat your favorite Addidas windpants.
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You'll be a lot more comfortable if you can wear some wicking layers, especially against your skin. I wear a bike shirt and a windproof vest over that. The vest cuts the wind and retains heat. A windproof shell comes next and that takes me down to 25 degrees. I wear a hoodie over this with the hood under my helmet when it gets colder than that. My best discovery was cutting off a pair of boot socks and pulling them up around my knees under my tights. They are more flexible than the foam ski knee warmers, which are really too hot anyway. I wear bike shorts under my tights to avoid chafing and help pad my kiester.
Look for wickwear at a thrift shop. It's amazing what some people give away.

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Wool not cotton, for smell resistance.
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Wool not cotton because wool is the only natural fiber that remains warm when wet. The smell thing is just a nice side benefit. However, my wool selections are limited (I think more is on the way for the holidays though, I happened to see a letter addressed to the wife from Rivendell), so I sub in a synthetic base layer for wicking and throw cotton over the top and figure at least it's away from my skin. There's an old saying, "cotton kills."
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I accidentally put my nice warm wool socks through the laundry and now they suck... I usually wear a ski jacket, some salomon ski gloves, jeans and hiking boots. This is good until about -10 to -15c. Once it gets past that I'll start layering under the jacket (with wicking bike clothes on at the base layer) and put on a pair of pearl izumi tights/snowpants deal that I picked up before winter. I have been considering getting a cycling specific jacket shell but my ski jackets work too well to really justify it.
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Cycling specific clothes tend to be among the most expensive cold weather items, I suspect it's mainly because the market is so small. You can save money by looking at mainstream outdoor clothing that feature similar construction and materials. About the only thing that cycling specific clothing offers is construction that more readily accomodates a cycling posture and the type of movements you make while riding.

That's a little bit of an over-simplification, but not much.
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A really cold AM ride, I wore my "Windstopper jacket. " That is about as comfortable as I have been out in the cold...
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Old 12-19-04, 11:32 AM   #12
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Last night :

Bike Shorts (cheapest Nashbar had)
Long Johns
Carhart work jeans
Cheap ankle socks
Mid-calf work socks, fairly thick, not wool
Caterpillar work boots (steel toes are kind of a bad idea in winter)
T-shirt
Fleece pullover
Leather motercycle jacket
Fleece neck thingy (just a tube basically - works and stays in place better than a scarf)
Thin fleece hat from Target
Snowboarding helmet with earflaps
Cheap gloves that are huge - they go about halfway up my forearm, so they stop that pesky wind problem at the wrist where your jacket meets your gloves

My toes and fingers were a little numb. It was really windy, and down below zero (real temp) by the end of the ride. One of the riders out last night (ajkloss42) did a century yesterday, and he was looking like he overdressed - everytime that we stopped to get inside, he was unzipping his outer layer of pants and taking off several layers on his torso. I don't know what all he was wearing. He did complain about his Pearl-Izumi gloves being too warm, so he'd sweat in them, and then they would get damp and when he put them back on they'd be really cold as the moisture froze...
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Old 12-19-04, 11:50 AM   #13
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#1 are windproof outer layers - once it gets below 40 degrees F or so, I really notice the difference. Adequate protection for hands, head, and feet is a very close #2. Layers underneath (varied for the conditions) is #3. This has worked for me for cold (a few high teens, mostly 20s and 30s) and dry conditions so far. Cold and wet will be a different story!
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Old 12-19-04, 11:57 AM   #14
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WooHoo, winter is here!
Today, Pajamas, I ain't going anywhere
Tomorrow, presuming the forecast is correct and it gets a touch colder I get to wear a winter outfit

1st layer
Med weight wool socks
cycling shorts
L/S thermal lycra cycling jersey my girl made me
balaklava

2nd layer
Neoprene socks
MEC winter tights, windstopper fronts
S/S Jersey

3rd layer
UTW 3/4 length pants
Fleecie!

Outer layer
Goretex unlined jacket (completely windproof) my girl made me

Accessories
Fleece neck thingie
headband w/windstop ears
sunglasses
Lake DH winter shoes (no vents thank god)
windstopper blackdiamond lined gloves over glove liners

Its -15c today with a W/C (standing still) of -25c
Tomorrow they promise -18 W/C -30 (standing still)
Clear and bright, no snow or ice. I love snow in the winter, snow means its only a lil below freezing usually. The COLD days are usually clear and bright.
Working tomorrow I'll be pushing -55c -60c when into the wind (that'd be around -67F for you fella down south)

It won't last all week though, I'm hoping for snow, a white christmas would be cool
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I once walked to work with a -75F windchill (-60C) with nothing but my big heavy coat , gloves, and presumably some sort of head covering.

I remember my legs were SOOOO cold. I didn't know it was that cold until I got there and the soda I had put in my pocket had frozen solid and burst. My boss actually yelled at me for walking in that cold.

The irony is I was walking because it was too cold for the car to start. Ha! I'm an idiot.
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Old 12-19-04, 12:07 PM   #16
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yah when it gets to that W/C standing still I have to listen to loud rap music and get all riled up to go to work at all
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The irony is I was walking because it was too cold for the car to start. Ha! I'm an idiot.
I remember my mom having to walk to the store in some really cold shiet because we had a deisel Oldsmobile to buy a birthday present for my little brother. The gasoline had become a gel, not a liquid. Luckily she had a US Airforce parka from Alaska that was old enough to have real wolf's fur around the hood - we had two of them. I still wish that I had one now. You could be out in pretty much any conditions with them and not worry. A helmet would have been impossible, though...
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I don't have a lot of gear so I kinda improvise.
Two pairs of thick socks
Waterproof Tims
longjohns
two seperate pairs of legwarmers, one made from the arms of a really thick cheesy sweater
cheesy sweater, wool hoodie, Columbia fleece, scarf and hat
I can't wear my helmet and hat at the same time because of my dreads, any other ideas for covering my
head in this Minneapolis death season?
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Use packing tape (clear unless you want to look extra trashy) and tape up the vents on the helmet. Voila, now it's a styrofoam head warmer.
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I go for a pair of fleece pants, pair of jeans, and waterproof hiking boots under the torso, and above it
I wear underarmor, long sleeved t-shirt, hoody, and if necessary a down jacket.
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I can't wear my helmet and hat at the same time because of my dreads, any other ideas for covering my head in this Minneapolis death season?
I'm a big fan of the pro-tec snowboarding helmets. They have different thicknesses of padding that you can use to vary for the head-gear you are using. They velcro in, so you can just switch to a thinner padding thing if you are using a thicker hat. I got mine at Eric's bike in Dinkytown. Check them out.
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I'm all about the ziplock sandwich bags over my toes. Keeps the breeze out and keeps 'em toasty.

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Dammit! I've been reading all this and dreaming about how it's supposed to snow tonight and tomorrow just in time to ride a little before I get on a plane to go visit family... Supposed to get 3 to 5.

And now I just got an email from the Emergency Email Network saying the warning's been cancelled and less snow is expected.

GRRR!!!
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Torso: Swobo poly shirt, Team S&M jersey, hoodie, and a wind jacket.
Legs/Feet: Wool knickers, wool socks, polypro footies, adidas,
Hands/Head: poly glove liners, windproof gloves, cycling hat+wool cap, and my fleece neck-thingee.
Yay! Toastie! And then my flask of 18yr Jamesons...yummmmmmm.
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Base layer -
Hind wicking running top, long sleeve (no cotton for me in this weather)
Helly Hansen 3/4 mesh wicking knickers (like tights)
Coolmax thin socks

Midweight -
Jeans/Pants/ 3/4 pants
Vintage wool cycling jersey 1
Vintage wool/acrylic cycling jersey 2
Neck gaitor
Glove liner

Outerwear -
Either: North Face Hyvent water/wind proof jacket with hood
or: Lowe Alpine thin puffer jacket
Diadora Gekos with Performance neoprene toastes (toe covers)
Marmot Windstopper gloves
Clover hat

Considering goggles - anyone use them? The snowboarding kind?
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