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Old 12-21-04, 10:56 PM   #1
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Any opinions on the '05 Bianchi Pista?

I've been attracted to this bike for some time due to its low price and mysterious allure (chrome??). I took one for a test ride this past weekend, but I have never ridden any other track bike before, so I really don't know if this thing is a real track bike, a flashy street-fix, or both. I'm thinking of trying some track racing next spring, and I'm wondering if this bike would be suitable for a beginner. Any satisfied (or unsatisfied) users out there? I would be interested in your feedback.
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Old 12-22-04, 01:27 AM   #2
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Yes it might be trendy, No I don't care, Yes it looks sweet as all hell, Yes it is a great bike.

The bike has good components (upgrades from last year are great), and rides very nicely.

As far as people telling you to build your own and not buy an off the rack yuppie machine, don't listen to them. I am a professional motorcycle mechanic, I have built race motors for professional race teams and worked for a professional race team, but I couldn't resist the urge to buy something that didn't need ANY fixing or assembly .

As far as racing the bike, I am keeping mine as a street machine and am currently building up a "proper" track bike just for the drome.

In conclusion, I really like my 05 pista and find myself grabbing it before I go for my street bmx'r, bmw, or motorcycle.
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I haven't ever ridden one, but the 05's sure look nice with the new decal design. Looks great!
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Old 12-22-04, 01:42 AM   #4
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The 05 looks AMAZING in person, and its all because of the new decal design.
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Old 12-22-04, 02:01 AM   #5
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its an ok bike. I have some problems with it already after 2 months. Stripped rear hub on the track side. Funny noises from the crank area that i cant figure out. other than that its a great bike i love it to death.
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Old 12-22-04, 02:09 AM   #6
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I don't like the new stuff from them. I like the old pistas from the 80s. They were awesome with Campy Super Record and Columbus SL/SP tubing.

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Old 12-22-04, 02:12 AM   #7
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also i cant seem to keep chain tension to save my life.
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You get what you pay for. Frame is good for the price, and the white paneling looks great. Expect to service the headset and hubs often, because they aren't that precision. You could spend $1000 and get something considerably better. Maybe just get the Bianchi and upgrade to a racing wheelset. Better hubs will be a noticable improvement. I'd suggest finding a really nice track bike to test ride and compare. Then you can gauge what you're willing to sacrifice, cost vs. performance.
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i thought the '05s were celeste, not chrome?
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Old 12-22-04, 08:53 AM   #10
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I've heard good things from a few folks I know that got the 05 (including a messenger). A friend of mine got one and I was telling him things to look out for (e.g. chain noise) that I had heard were a problem with the '04's and my '03. He said it was very quiet.

What I've been doing with my '03 is just replacing parts as I go. In a year or two, it should be totally rebuilt. I like the frame, however if I do want to get a new frame, I will already have a set of good parts to move on over.

P.S. I didn't really like the '04, but the '05 looks pretty.
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Recently picked up the 05 as a replacement for my now bent/broken bike before. It feels good, has a similar geometry to my old ride (which was important to me - I didn't want to get used to another frame) and feels solid.

I knew I was going to upgrade stuff on it so I wasn't as bothered about the components. A new wheelset will be built for it this Spring once I run the wheelset through the winter, a new fork (I likes me some carbon) and a new headset will soon be on the way. Other parts came from the old ride.
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My '04 doesn't look like a pista anymore due to electrical tape zeal on my part and the chrome on the seat rubbing off after several months-- it might be my technique, but that seat is a dull grey-white now.
I too agree the thing to do is get one and swap components at your leisure-- I really do enjoy the frame, particularly the geometry, and I think it's a good deal-- it caused me to ignore then sell my two conversions.
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Old 12-22-04, 09:36 AM   #13
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The 2005 Pista Concept is celeste. http://www.bianchiusa.com/568.html
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I see...sorry
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Is that a road crank on the '05 Pista? Looks like it if you enlarge the photo on the bianchi website. Lame, if true.
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Old 12-22-04, 11:02 AM   #16
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I've been intrigued by this whole Fixie thing. I live in Florida, probably the most ideal environment!

I've just started to look around at pawn shops for old frames to convert and fix up. However, the Pista seems to be a no-brainer in term of cost/value. It seems most here would agree?
Yup. Its not a bad choice if you just want to ride and aren't on a really tight budget. Building one up is really rewarding and probably cheaper, but takes a lot more time and shopping (assuming you don't have bushels of parts hanging in your garage). I have a Pista and a conversion and I like them both.
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You get what you pay for. Frame is good for the price, and the white paneling looks great. Expect to service the headset and hubs often, because they aren't that precision. You could spend $1000 and get something considerably better. Maybe just get the Bianchi and upgrade to a racing wheelset. Better hubs will be a noticable improvement. I'd suggest finding a really nice track bike to test ride and compare. Then you can gauge what you're willing to sacrifice, cost vs. performance.
i completely agree. the one cool thing that Bianchi does is that the frame is a good value. eventually you may start to have swap components out, but it's a very usable bike for the money. I guess the thing to keep in mind is that rides like the Pista concept cost a lot more money for a reason.

now all that said, part of the beauty of a fix is the inherent simplicity. if you want to go faster, you don't have to spend a lot more money to shave off a few grams or get an elliptical top tube, you just spin your legs faster.
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Old 12-22-04, 11:29 AM   #18
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I've been intrigued by this whole Fixie thing. I live in Florida, probably the most ideal environment!

I've just started to look around at pawn shops for old frames to convert and fix up. However, the Pista seems to be a no-brainer in term of cost/value. It seems most here would agree?
It depends on how well you know bikes and how quickly you want to start riding.

if you want a quick ride, you might be able to find some used, pre-fab fixies (Bianchi Pista, KHS Flite 100, others) in near mint condition and/or with upgraded parts. Ebay and Craigslist are decent places for those. I got an '03 Pista with under 100 miles on it off Craigslist. Some guy on the forums just got a used Pista with upgraded bottom bracket and headset off Ebay. Both of these were more than $100 off the cost of a new bike.

Of course, brand new is great if you feel like it's affordable. Anyone have experience with the '05 Pista headsets and drivetrain? These were apparently the older models biggest problems. And i have to say, though it rides well, my Pista makes a crap load of noise when I slow down.

The nice thing about fixies, from what I can tell, is that entry-level is pretty forgiving, cost-wise. The pre-fabs are cheap. Building up a bike can be even cheaper--and possible, even if you know nothing about it.
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This is your best bet for a starting place.

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/fixed/index.html
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Old 12-22-04, 01:33 PM   #20
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I have an '05 and I have no complaints has of yet. I knew about the supposed drawbacks on the bb and drivetrain before I bought it. But who doesnt do upgrades? Regardless, I feel it is generally a great deal the frame is inexpensive and it has a nice look and the ride is good. The components are on the low end but all in all if you are just testing the waters of racing i think its a good starting point.
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Old 12-22-04, 04:02 PM   #21
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i got the o4 pista on ebay basically brand new for 400$ with an upgraded headset and seatpost. i spent about 5 days just checking ebay till one showed up in my size. supposed to get here friday!!!
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you asked for opinions-
i've been on my friend's '04, and it's a solid bike, and i guess the '05 is pretty similar...
but personally, i wouldn't be caught dead on one of those without a paint job.
chrome is the cheesiest. the gray-black scheme was nice, as was the black-celeste.
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Old 12-23-04, 11:45 AM   #23
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CRAP! Now I have to call internal help to get a new keyboard. I just drooled all over mine after looking at the pics of the '05!
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Old 12-23-04, 12:02 PM   #24
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yea, they did well with the decals this year -- i like the world champion stripes. can't make up my mind on the chrome though. sometimes moderation is appropriate.
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I just have visons of that bike outfitted with black hubs, spokes, rims, seat and post, black bars, and a change of the name decals to black. Love the contrast. If Bianchi changes to this in 06, ya heard it here first.

Saw one of these in a shop last week and was impressed. Looked to be a very solid package for the dollar. But that seat.......whoa.
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