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Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

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Old 04-21-12, 01:15 AM   #1
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Purefix vs Dawes Single Speed Bike Entry Level Recommendation

Hi, I am new to road bikes and was looking to either buy a Purefix bike that was recommended to me at my local dealer with the budget I have. It is $325. Or the Dawes SST for $249 I have done some research and the bikes people on this forum recommend are way beyond my budget. I have never bought anything other than mountain bikes at Walmart. I bike through mostly flat pavement, and a few small hills.

I want to know if I should get either the

Purefix:
http://purefixcycles.com/collections...ack-blue-fixie

or

Dawes SST http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/dawes/sst_steel.htm

Can someone with more expertise please tell me the difference (if any) between these two bikes and which one would be a better buy and why? It seems that Bikesdirect sells at huge discounted price, and I was worried the Dawes was way higher quality in terms of brand and quality compared to Purefix. Please enlighten me. Thank you!
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Old 04-21-12, 02:33 AM   #2
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dawes mainly because it's a cromoly frame. the purefix frame is hi-tensile steel, which results in a heavier ride.
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Hello and welcome! IMO, the Dawes will be a better bike due to the frame. The Dawes has a chromoloy steel frame and the Purefix has a hi-ten steel frame. Chromoly is much preferred over hi-ten as it has a better ride quality - more forgiving and less harsh.

Are you looking for fixed gear only, or both fixed gear and single speed? This answer will open up other bike choices for you in your budget....
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Dawes, because it's chromoly and $ 76 cheaper. That'll go for a wheel truing if it needs it and any upgrades you eventually want for the bike.
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Thanks for the replies! I am open to other options, but I mean, from what I was told, a single speed or fixed gear is the best value since your buying less gears and more of the other parts like the frame etc. But you guys seem to be edging more to the Dawes bike.

Also, can someone be kind enough to compare the wheels? I'm curious about the Purefix wheels because the metal ring around it is huge! Why is it like that? And to me it looks really cool, but is it actually worst than maybe the smaller slimline Dawes wheels? Thanks again!

Edit: I realize that there are Road Bikes with more gears that are also in the $299 range, which one of those would be a good buy? I really can't tell which brand and what is good.

The "Stem Shifts" Lightning Sports and Avenue A and Sora, and other $299:

http://bikesdirect.com/products/road_bikes.htm

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When I was asking if you'd prefer to ride fixed gear or single speed, they are both still on a single gear bike (I wouldn't recommend a geared bike in a single speed / fixed gear forum, LOL ) When I asked about fixed or free, this is what I was referring to - Fixed gear means that the rear cog is fixed to the rear hub causing the pedals to always be moving. There is no coasting this way. With a single speed, the rear cog (in this case a freewheel) is set up like a bmx bike in that you can coast. I recommend this for new comers to single gear bikes, just my opinion.

With a single speed (freewheel) you will want both front and back brakes. A fixed gear can get by with just a front brake as you apply back pressure to the pedals to slow down for the rear - and some die hard fixed gear riders will use no brakes at all and rely on just the back pressure on the pedals to stop.

Bikes Direct has other single speed bikes you can consider in the under $300 price range. Have a look here:

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/trackbikes.htm

Look at bikes that have both front and back brakes with freewheels. Two good ones (to go along with the Dawes) are the Windsor Clockwork and Windsor Timeline.
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That's just the difference in the deep v style rims. The Purefix are 50 mm rims.

http://purefixcycles.com/collections...-50mm-wheelset

I have a Vilano that came with 30 mm rims and that particular wheelset has 43 mm rims as an option.

http://www.roadbikeoutlet.com/tec9-d...set-white.html
http://www.roadbikeoutlet.com/tec9-d...ubs-white.html

The thing with premade wheelsets like this, look for depth of the deep v rim and other features like spoke count 32 vs 36 spokes, also the hubs. A lot of write ups don't identify the brands they are really using, so you'd have to inquire and research as to which are better. BTW, the 30 mm tec9's that writeup says 32 spokes, mine has 36 spokes, so even there websites may have erroneous info.

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Thanks for the replies! I am open to other options, but I mean, from what I was told, a single speed or fixed gear is the best value since your buying less gears and more of the other parts like the frame etc. But you guys seem to be edging more to the Dawes bike.

Also, can someone be kind enough to compare the wheels? I'm curious about the Purefix wheels because the metal ring around it is huge! Why is it like that? And to me it looks really cool, but is it actually worst than maybe the smaller slimline Dawes wheels? Thanks again!

Edit: I realize that there are Road Bikes with more gears that are also in the $299 range, which one of those would be a good buy? I really can't tell which brand and what is good.

The "Stem Shifts" Lightning Sports and Avenue A and Sora, and other $299:

http://bikesdirect.com/products/road_bikes.htm
There is no (new) geared road bike worth recommending for 300 dollars, IMO.
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There is no (new) geared road bike worth recommending for 300 dollars, IMO.
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Thanks for the replies! I am open to other options, but I mean, from what I was told, a single speed or fixed gear is the best value since your buying less gears and more of the other parts like the frame etc. But you guys seem to be edging more to the Dawes bike.

Also, can someone be kind enough to compare the wheels? I'm curious about the Purefix wheels because the metal ring around it is huge! Why is it like that? And to me it looks really cool, but is it actually worst than maybe the smaller slimline Dawes wheels? Thanks again!

Edit: I realize that there are Road Bikes with more gears that are also in the $299 range, which one of those would be a good buy? I really can't tell which brand and what is good.

The "Stem Shifts" Lightning Sports and Avenue A and Sora, and other $299:

http://bikesdirect.com/products/road_bikes.htm
Deep V wheels are known in road racing as "Aero Wheels", basically it's supposed to help you with your drag making you faster. But in fixed gear/single speed, people usually get them for looks. that said, the deep v's on the purefix, i doubt adds much performance gain. Although, it does add beauty gain. Personally I don't ride with deep v's unless they're the aero kind that's actually not just for looks. Deep V's make a bike heavier, and considering that the purefix is already hi tensile steel (usually they're around 27 lbs), I would be wary of it. One thing that is cool about heavier bikes is that once you're going, the velocity of a heavier bike is harder to stop. In other words, you go faster, longer. But on a hill or starting, heavy sucks, plain and simple.

I'm not one to recommend a bike and then tell a person to upgrade the crap out of it but get the Dawes and if anything needs replacement as you ride it more and more, go ahead and do it. It's a fine bike. How do I know? I've owned two bikesdirect bikes. A windsor hour (39 dollars more) and Motobecane Gran Premio (1500$). don't be scared of the dawes.
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The Dawes. Definately. My fg conversion has a set of Tektro dual-pivot calipers and levers. They're great. +1 the recommendation to go to ss for a while before moving on to fg. Made the transition easier for me. The only thing re the the Dawes that's a neg for me is the sloped top-tube. Not a fan. Small price, though. The bashguards are a nice touch as well. Great price. Good bike. Go for it.

Btw, I own this model from BD http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/..._cross_cx2.htm. Came stock w/Alex R500 wheelset. 4+ years w/one overhaul/drivetrain replacement and still going strong. Mine was ordered on a Wednesday and I was test riding it Saturday afternoon. It's my primary commuter.

Oh yeah, w/t 75.00 you save on the Dawes get some Conti Gatorskins in 23mm. Kendas are crap.
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