Need advise with headset, hubs and bottom bracket
#1
Rookie of the year!
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Miami Beach, Florida
Posts: 2
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Need advise with headset, hubs and bottom bracket
Hello,
I'm fairly new to the bike scene and looking to get some advise from you guys. I'd like to get advise as to what are the most cost effective yet good quality brand headset, hubs and bottom bracket. I'm missing these parts from a frame I was given and would like to know what brands are best to choose from.
Any help would be appreciated.
I'm fairly new to the bike scene and looking to get some advise from you guys. I'd like to get advise as to what are the most cost effective yet good quality brand headset, hubs and bottom bracket. I'm missing these parts from a frame I was given and would like to know what brands are best to choose from.
Any help would be appreciated.
#2
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 657
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Hubs=formula
BB=spindle length depends on your crank you will be using
Headset=threaded?threadless?
BB=spindle length depends on your crank you will be using
Headset=threaded?threadless?
#3
Rookie of the year!
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Miami Beach, Florida
Posts: 2
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Thanks for the help. These are the specs they told I needed for the BB 68x110.5MM and the headset it is a threadless headset.
#5
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: PHL
Posts: 536
Bikes: De Rosa Planet, Shogun Kaze, Jamis Sputnik, Redline 925
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
advice.
#7
Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 27
Bikes: Custom Fixed Gear
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
If you're new, I actually recommend loose ball for everything. Yes, cartridge is easier maintenance-wise, but you'll learn how to maintenance your bike better if you know what all the little parts are doing. Most bike kitchens can teach you (or even you tube) on how to repack bearings. Also, personally I find that a properly packed looseball part spins a lot smoother than cartridge (ceramic bearings aside) ever would
#8
Fresh Garbage
Not everyone wants to deal with that if they dont have to. Loose ball headsets are also arguably inferior to floating cartridge style headsets (a la Chris King) and needle bearing headsets
Last edited by hairnet; 05-07-12 at 07:41 PM.
#9
Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 27
Bikes: Custom Fixed Gear
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Inferior how?
Yeah, its true, some people don't like to deal with it, but I hate seeing these professional cyclists training and not even knowing how to change a flat =.= soo in the case of a beginner, it's nice to train them up on anything maintenance related in the case they ever become pro or have to deal with it in the future whenever they reach the retrogrouch phase of cycling and wanting all matching Campy BB's on their 80's Masi Or if they start to really love working on bikes and decide to become a mechanic
Yeah, its true, some people don't like to deal with it, but I hate seeing these professional cyclists training and not even knowing how to change a flat =.= soo in the case of a beginner, it's nice to train them up on anything maintenance related in the case they ever become pro or have to deal with it in the future whenever they reach the retrogrouch phase of cycling and wanting all matching Campy BB's on their 80's Masi Or if they start to really love working on bikes and decide to become a mechanic
#10
Fresh Garbage
The headset sees a lot of impact and abuse, yet it is probably the component that gets the least attention. Loose ball, angular contact, bearings are well suited for it but ball bearings have small points of contact and can wear or damage races pretty easily - pitting and brinelling. Floating cartridges and needle bearings get rid of that problem. Needle bearings still require repacking like loose balls though. I'm just being nit picky though. I own a needle bearing headset from VO, it's cool.
#12
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Flagler Palm Coast, FL
Posts: 1,959
Bikes: 1986 Fuji Allegro 12 Spd; 2015 Bianchi Kuma 27.2 24 Spd; 1997 Fuji MX-200 21 Spd; 2010 Vilano SS/FG 46/16
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Mechanic ? Most of the wrenching on a bike is really considered being a technician ? There are frame builders, wheel builders and technicinans for pretty much everything else ?
Loose ball bearing, not a big deal, a caged ball bearing set takes a lot of the headache out of that. The more maintenance free though is the cleanest way to go.
Loose ball bearing, not a big deal, a caged ball bearing set takes a lot of the headache out of that. The more maintenance free though is the cleanest way to go.
Last edited by fuji86; 05-07-12 at 08:04 PM.
#14
Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 27
Bikes: Custom Fixed Gear
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Just because you don't put it on your bike doesn't mean you won't have to help someone else who has it on their bike.
#15
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Flagler Palm Coast, FL
Posts: 1,959
Bikes: 1986 Fuji Allegro 12 Spd; 2015 Bianchi Kuma 27.2 24 Spd; 1997 Fuji MX-200 21 Spd; 2010 Vilano SS/FG 46/16
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
#16
Your cog is slipping.
Your ignorance astounds me.
I'm sure you can install a star nut and change a tire but can you rebuild a hydraulic fork or properly re-align a bent frame? How about threading a fork? Do you own the tools to face/chase a BB shell? I'd like to see you work at my shop for one week.
I guess schools like Barnett Bicycle Institute are just a farce. I mean, they're not even really teaching anything, right? What about shops who will only hire certified bike mechanics? What a crock!
I'm sure you can install a star nut and change a tire but can you rebuild a hydraulic fork or properly re-align a bent frame? How about threading a fork? Do you own the tools to face/chase a BB shell? I'd like to see you work at my shop for one week.
I guess schools like Barnett Bicycle Institute are just a farce. I mean, they're not even really teaching anything, right? What about shops who will only hire certified bike mechanics? What a crock!
Last edited by Scrodzilla; 05-07-12 at 08:37 PM.
#17
OASAASLLS
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Orlando FL
Posts: 673
Bikes: Pake, Surly Pacer, Kilo TT, Giant XTC, SE Stout, 853 Ritchey MTB
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
No where does he say he doesn't know how to work on them, just that he doesn't want to do it on his own bikes. Probably because he is tired of dealing with everyone else. Plus its just easier.
#19
Fixie Infamous
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: SF
Posts: 10,474
Bikes: 2007 CAAD Optimo Track, 2012 Cannondale CAAD10, 1996 GT Force restomod, 2015 Cannondale CAADX
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 54 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times
in
4 Posts
You just lost all respect from me.
#20
Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 27
Bikes: Custom Fixed Gear
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
No matter how many bearings I pack into people's hubs and BB's I still feel so good as I'm doing what I love to do, work on bikes! and I just feel like I'm doing something special for my bike, more like an intimate moment.
#21
Still kicking.
I'm going even deeper into the headset thing.
While 1" and 1-1/8 have been covered,
If it is 1_1/8th is it an integrated or a zero stack headset both are known as internal headsets and the headtube id on the frame is usually bigger than what would be found with a traditional headset.
Zero stack: cups press into the frame, but no outside part of the cup and bearings are still in the cups that are hidden in the frame(aka no stack height.)
Integrated: cups are built into the frame, you just put the bearings into the frame.
If it's integrated, there are chances it is either one of two type of sealed cartridge bearing. Campy or Cane Creek.
While 1" and 1-1/8 have been covered,
If it is 1_1/8th is it an integrated or a zero stack headset both are known as internal headsets and the headtube id on the frame is usually bigger than what would be found with a traditional headset.
Zero stack: cups press into the frame, but no outside part of the cup and bearings are still in the cups that are hidden in the frame(aka no stack height.)
Integrated: cups are built into the frame, you just put the bearings into the frame.
If it's integrated, there are chances it is either one of two type of sealed cartridge bearing. Campy or Cane Creek.
__________________
Appreciate the old bikes more than the new.
Appreciate the old bikes more than the new.
#22
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Flagler Palm Coast, FL
Posts: 1,959
Bikes: 1986 Fuji Allegro 12 Spd; 2015 Bianchi Kuma 27.2 24 Spd; 1997 Fuji MX-200 21 Spd; 2010 Vilano SS/FG 46/16
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
https://i.ebayimg.com/t/2-Ton-3-Hooks-Come-Long-Winch-Hoist-Cable-Pulley-Puller-Lever-Hoist-Tools-/00/s/NjAwWDYwMA==/$%28KGrHqJ,!iYE6ZWtPfm0BOtHcen!3!~~60_3.JPG
I mean when Scrod himself tells you he doesn't install loose bearings to avoid dealing with them, tells me a sealed system is a disposable and replaceable component.
Last edited by fuji86; 05-07-12 at 09:17 PM.
#24
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,049
Mentioned: 63 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1210 Post(s)
Liked 167 Times
in
107 Posts
Go ahead and mark all that down under "who gives a ****."
ETA: I'd just like to go ahead and retract that earlier comment up there because I just got done reading this thread.
Now that my stomach hurts from laughing, what I want to say instead is:
That's a lot of text for someone who couldn't figure out why track nuts are appropriate hardware for a fixed gear bicycle. Rebuilding an 8-cyclinder engine ain't got **** on mounting a wheel on a bicycle, apparently.
ETA: I'd just like to go ahead and retract that earlier comment up there because I just got done reading this thread.
Now that my stomach hurts from laughing, what I want to say instead is:
That's a lot of text for someone who couldn't figure out why track nuts are appropriate hardware for a fixed gear bicycle. Rebuilding an 8-cyclinder engine ain't got **** on mounting a wheel on a bicycle, apparently.
Last edited by Spoonrobot; 05-07-12 at 09:22 PM.