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Fuji Aloha 1.0 2009

Old 05-15-12, 12:37 AM
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Fuji Aloha 1.0 2009

Would there be any possible way of turning this Tri/TT bike into a track bike? what crankset would you recommend? and wheelset?
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It's such a nice bike as it is, and turning it fixed would be a shame
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Originally Posted by IvyCap
It's such a nice bike as it is, and turning it fixed would be a shame
I only bought the frameset.
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alright well seeing as how it has horizontal dropouts i guess you can build it up as a track. what's your budget? and intended terrain use? indoor or outdoor?
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Originally Posted by brandonin
Would there be any possible way of turning this Tri/TT bike into a track bike? what crankset would you recommend? and wheelset?
Since you are asking for recommendations...

It seems by the questions that you ask that you are new to all of this. My advice: Quit while you are ahead. Go buy a complete track bike.

Also, it doesn't seem to have horizontal dropouts as some TT bikes have: https://2009.fujibikes.com/Specialty/...0-%283%29.aspx

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Originally Posted by IvyCap
alright well seeing as how it has horizontal dropouts i guess you can build it up as a track. what's your budget? and intended terrain use? indoor or outdoor?
My budget for a wheelset would be around $300. maybe $150-200 for a crankset. It's intended for outdoor use, pummeling through frequent hills.
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Originally Posted by carleton
Since you are asking for recommendations...

It seems by the questions that you ask that you are new to all of this. My advice: Quit while you are ahead. Go buy a complete track bike.

Also, it doesn't seem to have horizontal dropouts as some TT bikes have: https://2009.fujibikes.com/Specialty/...0-%283%29.aspx

1. It's too late to quit. I already bought the frameset.
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[TD="bgcolor: transparent"]A-6 Quaternary phase alloy butted seat stays with shaped ride tuned chainstay, forged horizontal drop-out w/replacable Al hanger
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Originally Posted by brandonin
2.[TABLE="class: specs, width: 0"]
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[TD="class: label, bgcolor: transparent, align: right"]REAR TRIANGLE[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: transparent"]A-6 Quaternary phase alloy butted seat stays with shaped ride tuned chainstay, forged horizontal drop-out w/replacable Al hanger[/TD]
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It says that, but it sure doesn't look like that in the picture. If it does have rear facing dropouts, it is basically an 09 FTP without the silly built in seat post and with a fork that is drilled for a brake. Seems like a much better solution than all of us Nashbar buyers had to go through with the FTP. However, if you look at pictures of the FTP, the dropouts look much more distinctive than what appears in that picture.

But don't ask "Can I build this into a track bike?" if you intend to "pummel through hills". What you meant to ask was "can this frame be used as a fixed gear frame?" and the answer to that is yes as long as it does in fact have horizontal dropouts.
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Originally Posted by prooftheory
It says that, but it sure doesn't look like that in the picture. If it does have rear facing dropouts, it is basically an 09 FTP without the silly built in seat post and with a fork that is drilled for a brake. Seems like a much better solution than all of us Nashbar buyers had to go through with the FTP. However, if you look at pictures of the FTP, the dropouts look much more distinctive than what appears in that picture.

But don't ask "Can I build this into a track bike?" if you intend to "pummel through hills". What you meant to ask was "can this frame be used as a fixed gear frame?" and the answer to that is yes as long as it does in fact have horizontal dropouts.
Thank you for the somewhat positive comment. Would the drilled hole for my fork affect the way it rides?
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Looks horizontal to me
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That isn't as horizontal as one might like. It might not allow for any gear changes without changing the length of the chain but it should still be enough for a good fixed gear. The drilled fork can only be a good thing. The rake of the fork is designed for that bike so the drilled fork just gives you the option of having a brake if you want one.
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Brandon, take a picture of what you have. Then everybody can argue better about what you need. Or "need" as the case may be.
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The 2009 Aloha does have horizontal dropouts but they are very shallow. Not a good choice for a conversion, as you will still need to rely on a "magic" ratio or use an eccentric rear hub or BB to manage chain tension.

As always - buy first, ask questions later.
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
The 2009 Aloha does have horizontal dropouts but they are very shallow. Not a good choice for a conversion, as you will still need to rely on a "magic" ratio or use an eccentric rear hub or BB to manage chain tension.

As always - buy first, ask questions later.
^^ This was going to be my next response.

"Can" you convert this? Yes.
"Should" you convert this? No.


1) It's not a great idea to buy a road frame with the intent to convert it to a fixed gear. Just buy a FG frame.

The rear dropuouts are horizontal in order to fine tune the wheel's position as close as possible to the seat stay, which for some reason is important to time trial riders. But, it really doesn't matter as much as they think it does.

2) Don't throw good money after bad.

Yes, you already bought it. Don't waste money trying to make this into a great FG bike. You'll be better off trying to recoup what you spent on it by selling it as a new, un-built frame and buying either a complete fixed gear or a track/fg frame as your foundation for a new build.

3) The chances of this being an awesome FG bike aren't very good...IMHO.

4) Don't get mad if we don't say, "YEAH, man! It's gonnna be awesome!!", which it seems that you want to hear. We really aren't good at offering support when we don't mean it.
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Oh, and...

5) Time Trial bikes handle wonky. The head tube angle of 72.5 degrees is slack to allow for easy handling when in the aerobars. That combined with a 45mm fork rake will make for sluggish handling. To put that into perspective, many road bikes have 73-74 degree head tube angles with 43mm forks. Some track racing bikes have 74.5-75 degree head tube angles with 25-40mm forks.

So, you may be able to make it look like this:



But it will handle like this:
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To make it a "track" bike, wouldn't you have to magically raise the BB (depending on your local track)?

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^This is my favorite post in a long time and sums up most of what is done here.

Edit: I meant Carlton's post. Another post was faster.
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Originally Posted by Cynikal
^This is my favorite post in a long time and sums up most of what is done here.

Edit: I meant Carlton's post. Another post was faster.
At first I was like

Then I was like:
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Don't feel bad bro. Your good post was over shadowed by epic post.
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Learning from my expensive mistakes! Craiglist Ad up. Now then... Does anyone have a reccomendation for a good track frame that has a cut out like the leader 735 in the rear triangle, and a large bottom tube?
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Originally Posted by carleton
oh, and...

5) time trial bikes handle wonky. The head tube angle of 72.5 degrees is slack to allow for easy handling when in the aerobars. That combined with a 45mm fork rake will make for sluggish handling. To put that into perspective, many road bikes have 73-74 degree head tube angles with 43mm forks. Some track racing bikes have 74.5-75 degree head tube angles with 25-40mm forks.

So, you may be able to make it look like this:



but it will handle like this:
lmfao
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Originally Posted by brandonin
Learning from my expensive mistakes! Craiglist Ad up. Now then... Does anyone have a reccomendation for a good track frame that has a cut out like the leader 735 in the rear triangle, and a large bottom tube?
Are you building this for aesthetics? If you really intend on "pummeling hills" you might want to do your research on such topics as well as the whole lot on fixed gears and single speeds. And for someone who bought a Tri/TT frameset you more than likely haven't done so.
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Originally Posted by brandonin
Learning from my expensive mistakes! Craiglist Ad up. Now then... Does anyone have a reccomendation for a good track frame that has a cut out like the leader 735 in the rear triangle, and a large bottom tube?
Maybe check out the Leader 735? Or the Leader 725. Or 721. Or Fuji Track Pro. Or a Visp.
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Originally Posted by IvyCap
Are you building this for aesthetics? If you really intend on "pummeling hills" you might want to do your research on such topics as well as the whole lot on fixed gears and single speeds. And for someone who bought a Tri/TT frameset you more than likely haven't done so.
I had to make a quick decision. My roommate had $500 scholarship for a bike from his cubscouts and I was looking through bikes and saw this as a good deal on nashbar and bought it. His scholarship would exhaust May 12, so it's still win win.
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Originally Posted by ddeadserious
Maybe check out the Leader 735? Or the Leader 725. Or 721. Or Fuji Track Pro. Or a Visp.
I hear that there are a lot of complaints about the FTP, no?
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