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Old 06-14-12, 07:50 PM
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Bike too small?

Is my bike too small? My back was bothering me a bit the past couple of rides, I think it might have something to do with the riser bars I put on in place of my bullhorns. Does anyone think my bike may be too small? Its a Windsor The Hour size 58. I am 6'4 and I was sized at a bike shop to ride a 58. Just visually what do you think? I can post a better picture if required, this was just me in my apartment with a wide angle lens.

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I think I fixed it, thanks for letting me know.
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FWIW coming from a newb, u look a little too upright in the photo. Riser bars probably aren't helping & switching back to bullhorns & maybe a longer stem could sort things out
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Originally Posted by Thade
FWIW coming from a newb, u look a little too upright in the photo. Riser bars probably aren't helping & switching back to bullhorns & maybe a longer stem could sort things out
Yeah, sorry about the picture, probably not the best visual aid. I was trying to balance while the timer was on to take the picture. I felt more comfortable with the bullhorns. I'll look into the stem, this is a 100mm.

Thanks for your response (im a newb too so no worries, any information is helpful)
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Yeah, I think your bike is too small.

Risers make any bike fit smaller and more upright. So, basically you took a bike that is small for you and made it smaller.

Your bike can work though. I would imagine that you aren't doing any seriously long rides. The discomfort may be from simply changing your riding position with the new bars. I say go back to the bullhorns which will stretch you out more which should be more comfortable.

The risers only give you 1 hand position (flats) whereas bullhorns offer 2 (flats and "hoods").
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Originally Posted by carleton
Yeah, I think your bike is too small.

Risers make any bike fit smaller and more upright. So, basically you took a bike that is small for you and made it smaller.

Your bike can work though. I would imagine that you aren't doing any seriously long rides. The discomfort may be from simply changing your riding position with the new bars. I say go back to the bullhorns which will stretch you out more which should be more comfortable.

The risers only give you 1 hand position (flats) whereas bullhorns offer 2 (flats and "hoods").
Thanks!
I did do a 30mile ride the other day (not long for most here) and it was ok, but I agree, going back to the Bullhorns will be better. I plan on using this as my daily beater bike.

Thanks for the advice.

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At 6'4", I think you are too big for The Hour 58cm. I'm 5'11" and I would ride The Hour 58cm. As mentioned, bull horns will help you out, maybe even a slightly longer stem to go along with it.
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Originally Posted by bfloyd6969
....bull horns will help you out, maybe even a slightly longer stem to go along with it.
try pursuit bullhorns like Nitto RB021 $55 or Rodeo Pursuit $30 (shown below)
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Originally Posted by bfloyd6969
At 6'4", I think you are too big for The Hour 58cm. I'm 5'11" and I would ride The Hour 58cm. As mentioned, bull horns will help you out, maybe even a slightly longer stem to go along with it.
height has little to do with it. i'm 5'11 and ride a 53 (happily, for 2 decades, and pro fitters seem to think it works for me too).
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I'm 6'4" as well and I ride a 61cm SE Lager frame with bullhorns but a short 80mm stem. I'm very comfortable on it and it feels like a perfect fit.
I'm just a novice bike guy so my opinion isn't worth much but I think these guys are right that your bike is a little on the small side but can be easily fixed with bullhorns and possibly a longer stem if need be.
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I got an ill-fitting bike based off info from a friend that rides.

Bullhorns + longer stem with rise + bunch of spacers on the steerer tube ( if you haven't cut it) + lots of seat post showing should do the trick. I'm comfortable on my too-small frame. Only downside is the flex in the handlebars/stem, but that could be due to my selection of "cheap" parts.
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Originally Posted by dookie
height has little to do with it.
I don't know man, my wife is 5'2" and she could never ride my 61cm bike. Even if I lowered the seat post all the way. She wouldn't even be able to stand over the bike and would probably need a stool just to mount it. So I think height has a lot to do with it. It's not the only factor but I think it's the main factor, no?
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Originally Posted by jvande7
I don't know man, my wife is 5'2" and she could never ride my 61cm bike. Even if I lowered the seat post all the way. She wouldn't even be able to stand over the bike and would probably need a stool just to mount it. So I think height has a lot to do with it. It's not the only factor but I think it's the main factor, no?
No. Effective top tube length is a much more important factor. I feel like this has been discussed elsewhere.
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Wow I had no idea that height didn't matter. Personally, I would never buy a bike that I couldn't safely stand over. I wouldn't feel comfortable riding in the city if I couldn't stop the bike safely and easily. I'd end up crushing my nuts and then limp home wondering why my effective top tube length didn't save me from busting my sh1t.
So yeah, not disagreeing with you or the pros (certainly not disagreeing with Sheldon), but for me personally, I'm more worried about standover height (and so are my testicles and penis).
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A bike you can't stand over will typically have a top tube that is too long, thus bringing it back around full-circle to make top tube length the most important factor.
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
A bike you can't stand over will typically have a top tube that is too long, thus bringing it back around full-circle to make top tube length the most important factor.

And THAT, is why they pay you the big bucks.
Thanks for clearing that up brother. Happy friday to ya. If all goes well I'll be helping advertise for your shop this evening (if postman bring my retro cycling cap). Fingers crossed.
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Thanks for the responses everyone. I switched back to the bullhorns as everyone suggested and it did the trick. I was able to do a 20+ mile ride without any discomfort.

I decided however that I am going to be selling the Windsor. I ordered a Dolan Pre Cursa (size 60) for when I do distance fitness rides (30+ miles) and I also ordered a Leader 722ts frame (size 61) to build up.
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where did you order the pre cursa in a size 60?
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Originally Posted by hailandkill
where did you order the pre cursa in a size 60?
https://www.velodromeshop.net/index.php?p=product&id=18
I got pretty lucky (see my other thread) with the pricing, got it for $617 shipped from the UK to NY.
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blaggggg complete bike only comes in 60cm. i want the damn frameset!

congrats!
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60CM frameset here: https://www.dolan-bikes.com/Track%20F...product_id=592

199 pounds (~300USD), not sure what shipping is to the US
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60CM frameset here: https://www.dolan-bikes.com/Track%20F...product_id=592

199 pounds (~300USD), not sure what shipping is to the US
shipping is something like 200 bucks.
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Originally Posted by hailandkill
blaggggg complete bike only comes in 60cm. i want the damn frameset!

congrats!
contact these guys and see if they can get a 60 for you:
https://www.dpmsports.com/dolan/03-track/precursa.html
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