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Old 01-10-05, 05:39 AM   #1
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DIY double toe straps?

Why are double toe straps so bastardly expensive? Made by Gucci? Hide from endagered species? I think they should not be too difficult to manufacture... I'm interested if anyone has done a DIY home version?
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I agree thats why I am still using nylon
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Leather's not too much more expensive than nylon ($10 versus $5), but doubles start at like $40 or something stoopid.
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Well I broke a cheap leather single strap in a sprint and almost killed myself so I figure the expensive doubles would be the way to go or nylon since it is realy strong. I remember seeing them for like $90 or something?
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Leather's not too much more expensive than nylon ($10 versus $5), but doubles start at like $40 or something stoopid.

Doubles are laminated leather. There's a plastic layer between two layers of leather, so it's not as simple as just stamping a form from stock leather.
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Laminated singles are still only $15.
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Why are double toe straps so bastardly expensive? Made by Gucci? Hide from endagered species? I think they should not be too difficult to manufacture... I'm interested if anyone has done a DIY home version?

two single straps threaded thusly through the pedals:
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And one terrible photo. Ouch.
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gets the point across, doesn't it, ****o?
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Doubles are laminated leather. There's a plastic layer between two layers of leather, so it's not as simple as just stamping a form from stock leather.

Some used to have metal instead of plastic also. It depends on who makes them I like double straps not using two seperate ones suck IMHO>>> It didin't work out for me.

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two single straps threaded thusly through the pedals:
Is there a problem with the front strap slipping forward? (seems easy enough to prevent in some manner, but I wonder if that should even be a concern).
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i've had that happen a couple times, but it's easy to fix, and doesn't pose a huge threat to getting stuck in the chain. i usually use an old strap for the fronts, because it already has a shape to it. when i get a new pair of straps for the "normal" position, i just rotate the old ones up to the front and cinch 'em down. it's a nice setup because there ends up being less pressure on the one strap, and i don't worry about snapping a strap, or my clips as much anymore.

it also depends on how wide your shoes are, i guess.
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well constructed double straps are worth the money. i know a messenger who used one pair for 7 years before one broke on him. i have a pair on my bike. i find that leather straps are better in general; they hold their shape better.
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Oh but think of those poor animals
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still, if they cost nearly 100 they'd better be genuine Panda
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Today's Japanese toestraps are much better than anything the Italians or French ever made 30 years ago. They have a plastic laminate that makes them almost unbreakable, and the buckles are stronger metal and fastened on the better ones with two solid rivets instead of one. They last forever and a day.

Choice of a double vs. one or two singles depends mostly on the pedals you're riding and your particular foot shape and pedaling style. Some riders can cross two singles across each other to avoid painful pressure on the top of the foot.

If you like to use PD-7700 SPD-R pedals instead of traditional slotted-cleat ones, you have a dynamite system to which you can add a toe strap (or two, if you really feel the need). Theo Bos and many of the top worlds sprinters use a single strap these days in conjunction with PD-7700s. The pedal/cleat connection takes a lot of the stress off the strap and lets you have a little float, which slotted cleats just don't give you. Check www.businesscycles.com or www.bensbike.com for the best selections of toe straps. Bensbike sells a lot at slightly lower prices on eBay.
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Today's Japanese toestraps are much better than anything the Italians or French ever made 30 years ago. They have a plastic laminate that makes them almost unbreakable, and the buckles are stronger metal and fastened on the better ones with two solid rivets instead of one. They last forever and a day.

Choice of a double vs. one or two singles depends mostly on the pedals you're riding and your particular foot shape and pedaling style. Some riders can cross two singles across each other to avoid painful pressure on the top of the foot.

If you like to use PD-7700 SPD-R pedals instead of traditional slotted-cleat ones, you have a dynamite system to which you can add a toe strap (or two, if you really feel the need). Theo Bos and many of the top worlds sprinters use a single strap these days in conjunction with PD-7700s. The pedal/cleat connection takes a lot of the stress off the strap and lets you have a little float, which slotted cleats just don't give you. Check www.businesscycles.com or www.bensbike.com for the best selections of toe straps. Bensbike sells a lot at slightly lower prices on eBay.
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you can get some single-strap SILVAS on ebay that are triple-layered with a chewy metal center. mmmmmmmmmmmm...

pair 1:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7126044664

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Actually I had a cobbler here in town cut me some custom toe straps. I showed him an old toe strap, and he cut a few pieces of scrap leather for me. It was really cheap, and he even riveted the buckle on. The cobbler was a nice Sicilian man, and he knew a little about bikes!
Granted its not any laminated leather but i've never had a problem with straight leather toe straps...
I've been riding a pair of 20+ year old single leather non laminated toe straps, and they're fine!
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Those ones on ebay look pretty good.

However, if you had access to leatherworking equipment, you could buy an old belt from a thrift store and make double straps out of it. Cut, rivet, done.
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Actually I had a cobbler here in town cut me some custom toe straps. I showed him an old toe strap, and he cut a few pieces of scrap leather for me. It was really cheap, and he even riveted the buckle on. The cobbler was a nice Sicilian man, and he knew a little about bikes!
Granted its not any laminated leather but i've never had a problem with straight leather toe straps...
I've been riding a pair of 20+ year old single leather non laminated toe straps, and they're fine!
This is what I was thinking... maybe I'll get them punked up with a few pyramid studs
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wanted to bring this back up and see if someone could post a photo of a properly run double toe strap -- hopefully run through an MKS rx-1. I'm mildly stuck trying to figure it out.

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wanted to bring this back up and see if someone could post a photo of a properly run double toe strap -- hopefully run through an MKS rx-1. I'm mildly stuck trying to figure it out.

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thems mine. Now another variation is to put one strap through the back of the pedal BODY (as you would normally lace a single strap) and then the other strap would go through the slot in the back of the pedal CAGE. Make sense?
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thems mine. Now another variation is to put one strap through the back of the pedal BODY (as you would normally lace a single strap) and then the other strap would go through the slot in the back of the pedal CAGE. Make sense?
yes, but i think i prefer your way. because i love you. also, we have the same color straps.

and one more question -- what is the little piece of black leather, a square with 8 clits cut in it, for?
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