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Old 01-19-05, 05:10 PM   #1
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More newbie questions

I'm building a first fixie from a Lotus Elan frame and 27" wheels. I have a few questions:

Is there a preferred lacing pattern for a 36 hole fixed gear wheel or is the regular cross pattern ok?

What's a safe pedal height to start with? I like 175 mm cranks, but am worried these will be too close to the ground, because this bike was originally set up with 170 mm cranks.

Can I really use an ordinary BB lockring as a track lockring?

Thanks in advance for your advice.
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Old 01-19-05, 05:16 PM   #2
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Is there a preferred lacing pattern for a 36 hole fixed gear wheel or is the regular cross pattern ok?
Doesn't matter too much as long as they are solid. I built my fix wheels with a 3x pattern. They're solid as can be.

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What's a safe pedal height to start with? I like 175 mm cranks, but am worried these will be too close to the ground, because this bike was originally set up with 170 mm cranks.
Most people say 170mm at the most. I think this is good advice. Rig your bike up with 175mm if you like and take it out and see how far you can lean over before striking something. Bikes have different BB heights, so it just depends on what type of bike you have and how high its BB is.

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Can I really use an ordinary BB lockring as a track lockring?
No, you'll need a track lockring if you are using a fixed/track hub. A BB lockring will be too large in diameter.
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Thanks, labratmatt (I too am a lab rat, physics). I can't wait for my IRO hub to arrive.
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Old 01-19-05, 09:25 PM   #4
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No problem. I am more of the computer lab type lab rat. Glad to see another linux nerd on the forum.

Are you at Univeristy of Maryland? I'm a grad student at Virginia Tech. We have several faculty members from U of M in the department.

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....Glad to see another linux nerd on the forum.

Add my girlfriend and me to that list ;-) We live 100% M$/Mac-free here.

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Good company! I am at U of Maryland, physics grad student. I've never been to Blacksburg but have spent time in Western NC. Must be an awesome area for mountain biking.
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I can't vouch for Blacksburg mountain biking, but the hills are fun. Or maybe I'm just wierd.
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Damn straight.
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linux == good
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No, you'll need a track lockring if you are using a fixed/track hub. A BB lockring will be too large in diameter.
a bb lockring also has right-hand threads, does it not? track lockrings are left-handed.
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I use a 3 leading, 3 following 3X pattern when lacing a 36 hole hub and love the way it looks.
Try it if you feel adventurous.
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I use a 3 leading, 3 following 3X pattern when lacing a 36 hole hub and love the way it looks.
Try it if you feel adventurous.
Ah... sounds cool, any photos of what this looks like? It's a 3X but you switch the direction every other group of spokes?
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a bb lockring also has right-hand threads, does it not? track lockrings are left-handed.
Right, gotcha. Another post on the forum said you could use a BB lockring, so I thought, hmmm, save $8 or something. Oh well!
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Another linux geek checking in... I do admin work at a web hosting company.
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Excellent. So, uh, I guess I am fulfilling my destiny as a Linux user by building a fixed gear bike!
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http://www.motorimania.it/manifestaz...tus.Elan.3.jpg

I didn't know that you could make these into fixed gears!

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I didn't know that you could make these into fixed gears!
Haha I found so many of those things while surfing the 'net for info on my bike (I'm still unsure of what the tubing is, for example, though another guy on the forum said CrMo).
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Moxfyre: you are making ANOTHER fixed gear bike? Whoa man. You are way ahead of me!

Cmon cmon drop a picture of the Lotus frame!
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Moxfyre: you are making ANOTHER fixed gear bike? Whoa man. You are way ahead of me!

Cmon cmon drop a picture of the Lotus frame!
No man, I just gave up on the previous frame because (a) it was a rusty POS (b) it was too small, and ... most importantly ... drumroll ... (c) the right side of the crank was stuck in it, with the threads stripped, and it's really hard to get out.

I'll get a picture for ya tonight.
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This is how to do it.
http://www.terminalvelocity.demon.co...d/3leading.htm
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here are some pics of my bud zev's wheel:




and the build up, if anyone's interested...
http://bikecult.com/works/parts/pinecone48.html
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Wow, that is sweet...
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Moxfyre: you are making ANOTHER fixed gear bike? Whoa man. You are way ahead of me!

Cmon cmon drop a picture of the Lotus frame!
Here's the frame. Nice dropouts, eh? Now that I think about it, it looks kinda ugly in present condition. I'll probably either repaint it or do the nail polish thing.
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Good company! I am at U of Maryland, physics grad student. I've never been to Blacksburg but have spent time in Western NC. Must be an awesome area for mountain biking.
I'm sure it is. I've only lived here about two years and I've only been road biking. Lots of good hills/mountains to build up the climbing ability.

I dig that frame. I like the black and red color scheme. Don't repaint it.
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